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  1. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    10523

    tipo 231B

    ANyone have any info on the above?

    Thanks
     
  2. dretceterini

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    All I know is that is supposed to be the chassis number of the 206S prototype...
     
  3. Napolis

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    Why is it also listed as 034? The chassis plate reads 10523. Was this built on a regular production Dino not a 206S chassis or was that chassis used for a 206S?

    Typo 231B is also stamped on plate which is 206S I think.

    Best
     
  4. tx246

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    10523 is the violet general marsh car that was for sale for a number of years recently. it is a 206 chassis and one of the prototypes. there are several prototypes, however, this is the only one with an odd numbered chassis.

    i have seen photo's of the car, but never inspected it in person. my guess would be that this is a chassis whose numbering system would have been in line with the ferrari chassis's of the same time (which seems to be most likely). when the dino's were numbered in an even fashion, the other prototypes followed suit.
     
  5. tx246

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    i have never heard any comments made about a 206s chassis under it's skin.

    i guess the ultimate confusion comes form the "coincidence" that 034 (the yellow car which looks to be derived from the 206s) has a pf work order number of 10523 (according to the dino register).

    both of these cars still exist today, the violet 10523, is clearly more of a 206 gt in appearance and i would have to believe a 206 chassis. leaving 034 to be based on a 206s chassis, which based on looks as well, seems most plausible.
     
  6. Napolis

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    The chassis plate I saw a photo of is from the Yellow PF car.

    ?????

    http://www.madle.org/epmdino.htm
     
  7. dretceterini

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    Yes, that's the car I think it is too....the yellow car with the fin off the noise and the spoiler on the back. As to the "Tipo" ????
     
  8. Napolis

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    Hi

    I just received an email from Marcel who confirmed the chassis plate and stampings what I don't understand is "034" is this another case where wrong info is passed down or is there some basis for this? The Tipo is of the Comp. cars.

    Best
     
  9. tx246

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    my guess:

    the yellow car is the 10523 pf build job using a 206s chassis

    the purple car is the ferrari chassis 10523 using a dino 206 chassis
     
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    does anyone know the current where abouts of the violet 206 gt car?
     
  14. Napolis

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    i was actually about to post the same photo. marcel took the photo when he examined the car at the Geneva Classics in October 2006.

    it does bring up an interesting point, that was vaguely asked in napolis' first post, is what/where is 034?
     
  16. Napolis

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    It's very interesting that there are two cars with the same chassis #.

    Best
     
  17. cinquevalvole

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    Very confusing, even to dinoregister.com. :)
    They say:

    "1967 S/N 034 ** Frankfurt Auto Show car.
    Displayed with the title of "Dino Berlinetta Prototipo Competizione Pininfarina".
    (Design Study) In-line engine placement. A show car with
    extreme front and rear spoilers, yellow
    exterior, black interior, light blue
    carpets. Coachwork by Pininfarina.
    **Note** Pininfarina work order number 10523 called
    for the special coachwork on this Dino 206S chassis.

    S/N ???? First prototype with the definitive shape.
    Pictured in Prunet's road car book, page 392.
    (3RD prototype) Identified by the large chrome door handles
    holes low on the door and also by lack of
    vents in front lid. Probably a non-running
    show piece only. Photos were used for press
    release purposes, but this particular car was
    never displayed in an auto show. Transverse
    engine placement, coachwork by Pininfarina.
    S/N ???? November Turin Auto Show-definitive shape, transverse

    engine. Red exterior, black seats with red inserts,
    (4th prototype) and white carpets. Coachwork by Pininfarina.
    S/N 00114 A silver prototype personally owned by Sergio
    Pininfarina. Pictured in various publications,
    (5Th prototype) and it was said to have been shown at the
    Paris Auto Show, maybe in 1968. Used for numerous
    press release photographs. There are virtually no

    identifying features on this Dino, and it appears
    identical to normal early production versions, except
    "Farina" badges on both sides, the wiper arms and
    blades were silver in color, and lack of vent windows.
    Coachwork by Pininfarina.

    S/N 10523 The first production prototype built at Scaglietti.
    (1ST production This car had side vent windows which the earlier
    prototype) Pininfarina prototypes did not have. The only Dino
    which was numbered with an "odd" chassis number.
    It is an apparent coincidence this car was numbered
    with the PF work order no.10523 used on the 206S 034
    mentioned above. The Ferrari factory says these two
    cars had nothing in common."

    Wondering where the violet Dino is running today ....?

    best,

    cinque
     
  18. tx246

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    the car was in ohio, usa for some time. i don't know where the photos i posted were taken. there is a texas flag in the background, but i haven't heard of it being here.
     

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