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  1. dersark_painclinic

    dersark_painclinic Formula Junior

    Mar 8, 2005
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    Lazik Der Sarkissian
    John I got the feeling this is 02 sensor issue, but I will check those valves too. Another weekend program.
    Thanks, Sark
     
  2. dersark_painclinic

    dersark_painclinic Formula Junior

    Mar 8, 2005
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    #27 dersark_painclinic, Jan 28, 2015
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    John are you addressing # 37 as a vacuum reservoir and it is located under the battery.
    Sark
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  3. Cribbj

    Cribbj Formula 3
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    Sorry Sark, I didn't see your reply. Yes, that's the vacuum reservoir. It provides vacuum to actuate the inlet tract butterflies, and although I didn't trace the hoses, it probably provides vacuum to the solenoid valve that then feeds the two VSV's.
     
  4. dersark_painclinic

    dersark_painclinic Formula Junior

    Mar 8, 2005
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    Thanks John, I am going after those 4 valves tomorrow, I will come back with some pictures if there were any residue inside the valves or hoses.
    Sark
     
  5. dersark_painclinic

    dersark_painclinic Formula Junior

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    #30 dersark_painclinic, Jan 31, 2015
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    Today I removed the cut off valves, there are 2, one for each bank. I applied vacuum and they fine allow the air moves towards the manifold (there is an arrow on the valve showing the direction of the air flow towards the manifold when installing back on) picture #1. Then I disconnected the hose to secondary air valve on the manifold and they are as clean as they should be( there are 4 valves 2 per bank picture #2.
    John now I believe there is an issue of oxygen sensor and I have no clue where to look and how. Any help appreciated also I ask pros to help.
    Thanks, Sark.
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  6. Cribbj

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    Sark, I'd suggest purchasing (2) of the upstream sensors (the expensive ones) and change them both, rather than changing one at a time. That will keep them both at the same level of contamination.

    There's probably a way to tell if their heaters are working or not, but you'd need a scan tool.

    Let's hear what the pro's said?
     
  7. dersark_painclinic

    dersark_painclinic Formula Junior

    Mar 8, 2005
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    John, I did not know there is a heather for oxygen sensors and where that suppose to be.
    Sark
     
  8. Cribbj

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    #33 Cribbj, Feb 1, 2015
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    Sark, it's built into the sensor's assembly; it's not a separate piece.

    BTW, when I wrote about keeping the sensors at the same level of contamination, that may have been a confusing term, but these sensors are the primary means for the ECU's to detect and adjust the AFR's for the left & right banks of the engine, and they do "age" and begin giving bogus readings (which is where the downstream sensors come in, and help compensate for aging/contamination). So IMO, if an O2 sensor is determined to be bad, I prefer to change both sides, in order to keep both sensors at the same level of "aging". Hope this clarifies what I meant, and doesn't muddy the water further?
     
  9. dersark_painclinic

    dersark_painclinic Formula Junior

    Mar 8, 2005
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    Thanks for explanation, I have a scissors jack and makes it very difficult to get to them. I may have to go to somebody. Thanks a million for walking me through this.
    Sark
     
  10. ferraridriver

    ferraridriver F1 Rookie

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    Sark, please do not get under that car with a scissor jack.
     
  11. dersark_painclinic

    dersark_painclinic Formula Junior

    Mar 8, 2005
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    Dave, this is made by BendPack and rated 6000 Lbs. I always had the fear of getting under the car on lift.
     
  12. Cribbj

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    Sark, any progress?
     
  13. dersark_painclinic

    dersark_painclinic Formula Junior

    Mar 8, 2005
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    John I am working on timing belt issue now. I will keep you posted with progress with 02 sensors' with pictures. .

    Thanks for asking, Sark
     
  14. dersark_painclinic

    dersark_painclinic Formula Junior

    Mar 8, 2005
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    John, I am driving her around. So far 200 miles and no check engine light. I had poor access to oxygen sensors so I stopped there. Who knows the light may come back or not, if it dose then I will go after 02 sensors. Just talking to the Ferrari tech he points his finger on the air pump, that is why I removed the cover to inspect the propeller. Any way thank you for your time and effort to walk me through this. If any thing comes up I will let you know, thanks again.

    Sark
     
  15. Cribbj

    Cribbj Formula 3
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    Sark, those are the issues that drive you nutty, when they just go away and you're not sure why :). Anyway, good luck with it in the future!
     

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