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CHRYSLER ME-412

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Would you purchase an ME-412 at $140K MSRP

  1. Yes, I would have put my name on a list today

  2. I might but still need more info

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  1. LetsJet

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    #1 LetsJet, Jan 6, 2005
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    Today I was disappointed to learn the ME-412 program to put the car in production has been scrubbed.


    With that in mind:

    If this car was built in production numbers of 350 units/ yr. for 3 years at a MSRP of $140K.

    Would you purchase it?

    http://www.daimlerchrysler.com/dccom/0%2C%2C0-5-7154-1-160161-1-0-0-160157-0-0-135-7145-0-0-0-0-0-0-0%2C00.html

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    This poll is only to try and get a count of people ready to purchase. That's why the limited responses. Don't vote if this car isn't for you........
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  2. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    I would buy one (if I had the money of course). I also wish that Cadillac would change their minds and build the Cien, that car is drop dead gorgeous.

    Edit: Oops, I just saw that you said to vote if you would purchase it now, sorry.

    Edit again: By the way, those are some incredible hp/tq numbers and structure materials for that price! I was expecting them to sell for at least $300k (around the Murcielago price range).
     
  3. LetsJet

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    Yes, the specs are impressive. I wasn't sure what they were planning on an MSRP but now I know it was around this figure. I expected it to be in the $220k range which would have placed it out of realistic range to justify.

    Very bitter sweet today............ (BUT - you never know)

    I'm really trying to find out who would have actually placed an order like myself.
     
  4. tfazio

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    I would order the Chrysler ME-412 if it cost $140K and I had the cash to pay for it. But like others mentioned I think the estimated cost was going to be over $300K maybe as high as $450K or even more than that. I think I read that somewhere. I was thinking Chrysler was pretty serious about producing the ME-412 since they were allowing reporters to take it for a ride. Maybe the ME-412's engine could be put to use in a future Mercedes model or maybe it could fit in the Pagani Zonda. It will be interesting to see which automaker can be the first to produce a car with a 0-60 time less than 3 seconds.
     
  5. dmeyer

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    While I am in no way in the market for a car like that, or any car for that matter, given the performance numbers I would deffinately get on some kind of waiting list at $140K, those are Enzo-like performance numbers for no where near the cost. BTW I did not vote in the pole as I'm not a serious buyer, just thought i'd put in my 2 cents.

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  6. LetsJet

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    I have it on good authority

    $140K

    Mercedes is definitely part of the issue.............
     
  7. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    I really can't see how they could sell them for $140k and make a profit. I mean, the SL55 is almost the same price! If your sources are accurate and you get word around that it will be at that price, I don't see you having a problem getting several hundred in line for the car.
     
  8. Koby

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    So sad that these compaines don't have the stones to build these cars. Two amazing designs that would have all of us rethinking our supercar heirarchy, but alas, they are sticking with the mini-vans and suvs.
     
  9. scycle2020

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    there is no way chrysler can make this car for 140k with out taking serious gas on it.....and they would find out, as vw has with the bugatti, that building a car like will have many headaches and set backs before it is ready for everyday street use..and as of now, they have decided not to built it...i agree it would end up cost 300-400k..but at 140 k and a warranty, i would buy it....
     
  10. teflon

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    At $140,000 I would buy one. However, I do not believe--unless your good authority's last name is Zetsche--that the car could ever be sold for less than $300,000.

    I should also point out that I would only be interested in buying the last year of production. I am not willing to be an unpaid quality control specialist.

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  11. G-force

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    I agree 300k might be a realistic figure. Worth that by comparison. Saw it last night in person ...what a dream machine!!!
    I'd get in line and wait for that car!
     
  12. LetsJet

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    Thanks for the honest replies.

    I understand the skepticism regarding the price. For argument sake, consider a $140K MSRP in your decision.

    Something to consider......... if this car could be built in this price range do you think MB would have a hard time justifying the SLR price?

    Do you think they (Corp.) want a Chrysler out performing a SLR? The call to scrub the project might have had these considerations.
     
  13. LetsJet

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    Chrysler isn't going to build a $300k car...........

    Where did you see it?
     
  14. G-force

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    At the Preview showing last night at the LA auto show.
    They are hyping it like they "might" build it.
     
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    I spent more than 2 hours with the test driver of the ME-412 at SEMA. This car is rated at well over 800 bhp and comes with a twin clutch paddle shifter, carbon fiber chassis and body. If they were to build this car at the $140k it would be the best performing car in it's class and in the $300k class... and I would buy it in a heartbeat! This test driver has spent the past year testing this car and raved about its performance. Top speed on this is more than capable of going over 210 mph. He also claimed that the DC folks were looking to shave weight off of this car and could get it down below 3,000 pounds.

    It's too bad that Daimler doesn't have the nads to build this car. If they did, it would move the bar up dramatically in the exotic marketplace.

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  16. LetsJet

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    With 800 bhp a little extra weight wouldn't hurt. Might even make it ride a bit nicer. I wouldn't want something to light at 200+mph.

    Your right, they should man up..........
     
  17. teflon

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    I just want to be clear on this. You're saying $140,000 for the car and it still has a quad turbo 12 cylinder mid-engine w/ 860hp; ricardo semi-auto trans and a CF body? If that's what you're saying, then I think the car would be the performance purchase of the century. Cheaper than a Ford GT w/300 more hp. More powerful than any F-car, Lambo, or stock Porsche. How could anyone say, "no" to that?

    IMHO, the SLR is an embarrassment to both MB and McLaren. I honestly think they have a hard time justifying its existence when it has both the SL & CL 65s nipping at its heels for ~$200,000 less. But then again, MB seems to be engaged in a fight to the death over horsepower with...MB. The ME412 would soundly ring the death knell for the SLR.

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  18. MarkPDX

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    They ran the ME-412 at Laguna Seca back in August at the Historics. What a disappointment! It didn't sound like anything and they hit a top speed of maybe 40 mph. Really FF'ing lame
     
  19. Viper 10

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    The test driver was giving info that totally contridicts the $140k price. He was saying that the car will go for something between $250k to $750k. That is a far cry from $140k. I wouldn't get your hopes on that price. How high up were these DC resources?

    He convinced the engineers to can the self adjusting carbon fiber wing and splitter. because of weight issues. This car has no problem staying on the ground. The splitter and rear wing was set to an abundance of downforce (unlike the Bugatti Veyrons).

    Brad
     
  20. Etcetera

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    So...test driver notes a price range of 500k and this is credible? How high up are your resources, or those of the test driver?


    And how will a few pounds save the car? Really. And how do you know the Veyron has a problem staying planted?
     
  21. Viper 10

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    He showed us how to save the weight by removing the elctronics and mechanical components needed to monitor and adjust these components. The other thing that he mentioned was that they can shave a ton of CF off of the car because it was built klike a brick **** house.

    They Bugatti folks took the only two existing Veyron's to the vintage races last year. When they were demonstrating the car's acceleration and speed, both cars lost it and spun off of the track. They almost destroyed the 2 main assets of the company before they produced their first car. It was found that the aerodynamics of the front end were way off and that the rear created much more downforce and it lifted the front ends of both cars.

    Don't you wonder how that company can hype that car for so long and yet never produce the car? The people at Bugatti have been not only silent but also invisible since this problem occurred.
     
  22. LetsJet

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    Ok, maybe he's right.........but that is not what I asked.

    I'm not at liberty to say, but I would say he's higher then a test driver by a huge margin. (Not putting the test driver down and he might be correct)

    I would think a fair amount of carbon fiber could still be replaced and still get untouchable numbers. I think the carbor fiber seats, for example, could be options.

    I don't think MB wants it known this is possible, hence the scrub.....
     
  23. mchferrari

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    I would be all over that if I was you
    Hey if you can afford it, there should be no question
    It's a hot car
     
  24. Viper 10

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    The ME-412 was the highlight of the LA Auto Show for me. IMO it overshadows the Enzo in all categories... to bad the folks at DC are clueless.
     

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