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  1. thecarnut

    thecarnut F1 Rookie
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    The current issue of Classic and Sport Cars has a yellow Ghibli spyder and a red F Daytona on the cover. Has anybody read the article? Which one did they prefer?

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  2. khamsin433

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    Nice article, but I've now returned the mag to my brother. But they preferred the Ghibli

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  3. thecarnut

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    That the Ghibli spyder was preferred should not be a big surprise :)

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  4. jnk

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    I know that I have asked this question before, but does anyone know why this car has 9 main dash toggle switches while most ( if not all ) other late Ghibli's have 5 main and 2 window lifts. What are the the other 4 switches for?
     
  5. 3500 GT

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    Yep,....the Ghibli was the over all the choice for them. The article is quite good.

    I think most people who can't drive a Ghibli or Daytona will argue for the Daytona simply because it has 12 tiny, thimble sized pistons.

    Ciao and best!

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  6. wbaeumer

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    not only that - it also had a transaxle and much better suspension!
     
  7. thecarnut

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    The real question is which one FEELS better to drive? Technically the Daytona is superior on paper but I use to own a 365 GTC/4 (Euro version) and was very much unimpressed with the car. I realize a Daytona is a different car but just because it has independent suspension, a transaxle and a bunch of tiny cylinders does not mean that the package works well together. Personally I find the Ghibli spyder a dream to drive .... especially with power steering, which the truck heavy Daytona does not have.

    I know the market votes for the Daytona, but this is a Maserati thread so I'm cheering for the Ghibli :)

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  8. f308jack

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    A comparison between the Daytona and the Khamsin would have been more fair: On paper, they are much closer, and even if the Daytona is marginally faster, Khamsin should win that hands down.
    That the Ghibli with its' archaic rear suspension still has the preference shows clearly that the Daytona has fallen from grace for the moment. Whilst the Ghibli is likely the easier to live with on a day-to-day basis, at 250 clicks an hour I'd rather be in the Daytona. In today's traffic though, I find the opportunities to stretch the legs of these cars becoming fewer and fewer, to a point where high-end capabilities almost become a moot point.

    I haven't seen the article, will keep an eye out.

    Best,

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  9. wbaeumer

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    No Khamsin left the Factory as a Spyder!
    C&SC made a feature about both convertibles. Therefore they are in comparison.

    Both cars are great.
    While the Ghibli-S. is more for the relaxed driving, the Daytona-S. is more for those who like fast corners. Different characteristics, different mentalities.

    For me the Ghibli-S. is the more elegant car while the Daytona-S looks more brutish.
     
  10. f308jack

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    Qalter,

    Of course you're right.

    I should have worded my post differently, and propose a comparison between 365 GTB/4 and Khamsin.

    Best,

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  11. italiancars

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    The market makes the decision and it has picked the Daytona.
     
  12. wbaeumer

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    yyyyyyep!
     
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    The authors already knew the prices; they wanted to know whether the difference was justified by the properties of the cars as cars rather than as investments. In the cars' own era speculation was not a factor and they sold in about the same numbers.

    BTW, Thoroughbred and Classic Cars this month has an article comparing the Bora, DBS-V8, Jarama, and Interceptor.
     
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    Here it is, my complete collection (minus two issues....) of "Classic & Sports Car" magazines, from April 1982 to January 2013. My favorite monthly read!
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  15. staatsof

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    Why include a Bora? Yes it's more of a GT than all of the other mid engine cars of that era but where are +2 seats?

    As for the Daytona, i agree it's much more truck like than the Ghibli. Both are very lovely looking cars. Thus far way more money has been spent maintaining the Daytona than the Ghiblis. That's true for Ferrari vs Maserati in general. So as of today they appear to be better built cars. If you've ever seen a Daytona being disassembled and then restored you're likely to be in for a surprise at how they were built. It certainly wasn't for the ages but I guess that's the knock on all Italian cars.

    Once the Merak, Bora and Khamsin arrived at Maserati all the previous GT cars they made suddenly felt "old". The chassis my in Espada feels much more modern than that of a Ghibli or Indy but the steering is the same. Like the Daytona they're all that very dated and less precise recirculating ball design.
     
  16. MK1044

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    You need slip cases. ;)
     
  17. Quattroporte3

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    Never having driven a Merak, Bora or Khamsin, I wonder how the QP3 fares in comparison (as a GT, not a sports car).

    Some articles imply that the QP3 was hastily thrown together and based largely on the Deauville (as was the Kyalami), while others have indicated that f.x. the front suspension is the same as a Pantera (with 3x the load to bear).

    Personally I think the car handles surprisingly well for one as big and heavy as it is, has comparatively little body roll and corners like a much smaller and nimbler car. The cabin is noisier than I would have expected, but that might be due to 30 year old bushings, packings, seals and gaskets along with the rest of the insulating materials.

    My sample size being 1, it would be great to hear from other's who can compare.

     

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