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  1. rob lay

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    If you look in my profile, you'll see one of my "wanted" cars. I can't make up my mind or wallet on the vintage or late model 12, however, I do have a line on a nice 1972 BOSS 302. I really wanted a 1970 with the shaker hood, but this car is yellow and a 302. I guess I could always put a shaker on the '72.

    Anyway what is the market for these today? I know they've taken off in value the past several years, but how much? I don't know much about Mustangs or even muscle cars, I just want one and I don't want to be a sucker like buying a $40k 308.

    Don't know much this car...

    1) Mostly restored a few years ago.
    2) Mods to rebuilt original engine.
    3) Numbers match.

    Pictures make it look really nice. I don't want a perfect original show car. I will try to keep the basic car and colors original, but I had planned on having fun with a crate engine and keeping the original out of the car. Anyway, give me an idea what I can expect to pay.

    I'll try to post the pics later and see if you can spot anything. I think I saw a tow hitch in the pic. :confused:

    Thank you.
     
  2. Sfumato

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    Hi Rob:
    Happy holidays.
    Here's a couple places to start for values. Boss302 70 will bring great money, 40's-50's I guess, more if Cross-Boss, etc. 72 I'm less sure.
    http://www.karmustang.com/Carlist/inventorylist.cfm?Inv=Classic
    http://www.fraserdante.com/3603%20-%2070%20Boss%20302%20-%20Caprio/70boss302cap.htm
    I say this as a former June 64 prod convert 289-D owner (10y), as well as a 69 Boss429 owner. Should have kept both.
    Lee

    PS found another 70
    http://www.mershons.com/view_photo.asp?ID=9267&image=Exterior
     
  3. vdavie

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    I have a orange boss 302 shaker car. it is in the boss reg as the record holder for 16 months in the quarter mile. it is a number matching car with 12-1 and a 5 speed so the trans is not original on the car. just painted 6 months ago (12K) motor rebuilt 100 miles ago. its been in a few mags, it's a fun and fast car. These cars are bringing big money these days. For a so- so car expect to pay 25k, for a nice one 40k. I may be selling mine in the near future.

    vince

    also have a cross boss manifold and another boss block in the garage.
     
  4. Murph

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    Rob,
    Check that car out closely Boss 302's were only produced in '69 and '70
    with a Boss 351 produced in 1971.
     
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  6. Bill Sawyer

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    Rob: My best friend has a 70 Boss and is on his way today to Oklahoma from Raleigh to pick up a K-code 66 Mustang fastback. His advice is to log onto www.boss302.com. Anything and everything you need to know is there, including the fact that there are no 72 Boss 302s as Murph pointed out.

    If you feel the urge I can put him in touch with you.

    Good luck!!
     
  7. vdavie

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    Yikes, i guess i didnt read his post close enough, hell no they never made a 72 boss 302! the site bill recommends is the best place for info bar none. You will learn everything you wanted to know about boss cars there. Also there are always 5-6 boss's for sale.

    vince
     
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  9. Juice It

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    I had a 72 Mustang fastback in high school and it had a 302 but it was not a "Boss". The good 72 was a Mach1 with a 351 cleavland I believe. 72 is not the year to go after.
     
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    Rob,
    I'll sell ya my 69 Mach I. Its needing a new home!

    PD
     
  11. Mojo

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    could we see a pic. of your 69?
    those are one of my favs. I like 69 better than 70.
     
  12. rob lay

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  13. Papa G

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    The front and rear of that car sure look like a '70 and I believe that the slope of the rear glass on the '71-'73 is almost horizontal compared to the '69-'70. I don't know too much about these cars either but I can't see someone going through a ton of work (=$$$) to make a '72 body into a '70 when it's a lot easier (cheaper???) to pickup a base '70 Mustang and turn that into a BOSS.

    Papa G
     
  14. Juice It

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    This is not a 72. No way no how. I had one, it is a bigger completely different looking car. You can probably google one.
     
  15. rob lay

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  16. vdavie

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    Guys, this is a 70 body style, i don't know if its a boss, if the vin has a "g" in it, its a boss. the 69 has twin headlight, the 70 only one. the motor, if its a real boss will have screw in freeze plugs, it will also have staggered shocks only a boss feature. There are many other tell tale signs. Let me know if you need help. get the vin# also the number of the block and let me know. also you can check the boss reg it should be in th 92 or 04, it will give the history of the car. I have the 92, as mine is in there get me the numbers and i will check.

    vince
     
  17. Murph

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  18. Sfumato

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    Yep, Murph posted a nice sampler. The yellow one you liked is a 70, Rob. Much better handling car, much better racing history, more parts to build driver if yu aren't a purist. 71-73's are BIG cars; I like them, but they aren't like the 69-70's. My KK 69 was Wimbledon White/black.
    I also am old. I forgot the later cars were boss 351's too. I just read '72 Boss. Late cars in Boss 351 guise are pretty rare too.
    here's a non boss 351 72 for 15k
    http://www.karmustang.com/Carlist/getlisting.cfm?carid=360&Model=Classic
    And a 71 Boss 351
    http://www.oswaltsmustangs.com/forsale/12/12.htm
     
  19. rob lay

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    More info, talked to the brother-in-law tonight that knew everything. Yes, it is a '70. Original car with only 80k miles. No restoration work except blue printed engine 20 years ago, head work last year, and clutch/trans work last year to get driving again. Their father owned it since '80 and is third owner. Car had 60k when he bought it, father was fanatical about maintaining it and driving about 1k a year. All records exist and like I said, everything is original. Only damage was the passenger side light was in a fender bender.

    4-speed
    0F02G148369
    2:80 rear end

    Wants $35k firm.

    This is exactly what I was looking for... a 1970 Boss 302 in Yellow. Although this car didn't get the shaker option, it does have the 4 speed.

    What do you think? Would have to be restored to be perfect, but with my cars lately I've been leaning more towards original vs. over restored.
     
  20. Sfumato

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    Nice car. Hammer him a little, good home,etc. If you restore it, you'll be upside down. Drive it and care for it. May want to put 31 spline 9" in, mebbe 3.91 or so.
    Hi 20's, guys? 30 if all paperwork/goodies?
    Good luck Rob, it's kewl.
     
  21. vdavie

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    if that car does not have any rust damage and he has paperwork and its a numbers matching you, you will never get it for high 20's. Without seeing the car i would say 35k is pretty close. I have a 70 boss and a 69 z28 both original, the 69z's use to bring about 20-25% more than the boss cars, not anymore. Even if this car had a replacement motor from the factory ( a lot did, the pistons where the weak link in the motor) if everything else was there it still would bring 28-30k. If the paint is good on this car give him his 35k, because if he puts it on e-bay or in auto trader it will sell for that money, if the car is as nice as you say. These muscle cars in the last 5 years have gone through the roof, 71 hemi's selling for 2 million, i am not kidding. 70 LS6 Chevells selling for 60-70k. I collect muscle cars as a hobby for the last 15 years and cannot believe the money these cars bring, having said that, if the car does not have paperwork DO NOT BUY IT.

    vince
     
  22. rob lay

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    What would you count as the paper work?
     
  23. vdavie

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    A few things. When the cars moved through the assy line in those days they had what was called a "build sheet" it told the workers what options, color ect.. went with that car. This is always important to have because you will be able to tell what options the car came with originally. Window sticker, althought tough to get the do reproduce them. With GM the same thing, GM also had what was known as a "proteco plate" if was like a metal credit card, it had the vin# on it with some other info, when you took the car in for service you gave it to them and they had all the info on the car. I have this with my 69z28. The best thing you can do is get the vin# and check it against the boss reg, it will tell you if its real, what options it came with, color ext.. example, on my boss somewhere along the line the guy changed the color to calipsol (sp) coral, this is a 70 boss color but not the original color. It states it in the reg, i had it changed back to its original color to the tune of 12k. Rob, do yourself a favor and do your homework, when you go to sell this car, these are the questions you will be asked. If i can help just let me know.

    vince
     
  24. jimangle

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    I remember when I could have bought a boss 302 when I was 18 for $2900. I thought the guy was nuts. Man, I messed up.
     

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