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  1. Simon1965

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    Nope. My red folder didn’t have that little book. Just the certificate and the folder. See attached
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  2. Rossocorsa1

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    I believe the annual inspection requirement and the inclusion of the annual inspection booklet are a more recent evolution from just the past few years.
     
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  3. Rossocorsa1

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    Peculiar. Not sure why anyone would buy that for their car given that it would have no substance or official validation.
     
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  4. Rory J

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    Judging by the number of incorrect items I found on cars in the Maranello museum when I was there for the 70th Anni festivities (a Cavallino badge on a Dino 246 GT, for example), I have little faith that any Classiche Certification would be accurate.
     
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  5. Rossocorsa1

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    Yeah. I’ve heard plenty of this opinion before. People don’t seem to understand what Classiche Certification requires, or they don’t want to know. If anything, I think the process isn’t rigid enough, but the badge wouldn’t stand in the way of it being certified. It’s major components that are required.
     
  6. Texas Forever

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    Maybe they should have a Classiche for people who don't drive their cars?
     
  7. Rossocorsa1

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    You don’t drive your Ferrari?
     
  8. Texas Forever

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    Ain't got one no mo. Ain't likely to get one, neither. I just brought a Jensen Healey for $8,000. It is more fun than the law allows.
     
  9. TTR

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    I’m guessing same reasons as those who buy/own cars only for showing them at collections/events/gatherings, without really using them “as (originally) intended”* or those who buy/own fake cars/watches/whatever...

    * If I’m not mistaken most, if not all, road going Ferraris, for example, have always been built and intended for long distance leisure travel, i.e. Grand Touring.
     
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  10. Rossocorsa1

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    People should enjoy their property however they choose and in whatever manner brings them joy. Speaking for myself, I both drive my cars and I also enjoy showing them. In fact, had a wonderful drive this weekend with both of my Ferrari's throughout the Maryland countryside. I work very hard and I invest a great deal in keeping my cars at their optimum condition, both cosmetic and mechanical. I'm not sure I see any harm in that. The other owners/presenters I have had the pleasure of meeting at some of the finest concours are deeply passionate enthusiasts. The Ferrari community should be thankful that these individuals exist as serious stewards of the brand. And yet, oddly, there are a small group of vocal naysayers who seem to find that somehow offensive. I suppose anyone with common sense can easily guess why that is.
     
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  11. Texas Forever

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    I'm slow. Can you enlighten me?
     
  12. Rossocorsa1

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    No
     
  13. Marcel Massini

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    Sometime ago I purchased on eBay and entire red book for a certified Ferrari.
    It even included all contact details including mobile phone numbers and credit car details of the (Italian) man who had had his Ferrari certified.
    I think I paid something like 300 bucks or so for that red book.
    Strange to see that the red book did not go to the new owner of the car.

    Second case: Years ago I sold a pretty significant 250 GT (exact type I will not release) and the new buyer did not want the red book that came with it. He said he doesn't care. So I just kept that red book.
    Funny world.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  14. Rossocorsa1

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    That's really odd, particularly the second anecdote. To have a red book on a significant car, like it or not, is significant. Thanks for sharing.
     
  15. 635CSI

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    My Lusso T is now a year old, should I get a red book and book it in for a yearly inspection in 2020 ?:rolleyes:
     
  16. Rossocorsa1

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    Needs to be at least 20 years old to be considered for certification.
     
  17. 635CSI

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    It was a joke my friend. I must have lost my touch.
     
  18. Rossocorsa1

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    I’m sure it was, but not everyone knows that cars need to be 20+ years to be considered.
     
  19. 635CSI

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    Yet I believe they do another “book” (yellow or perhaps white?) for more recent cars.
     
  20. Marcel Massini

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    There are plenty of threads already about all this on fchat. Use the search function.
    The yellow book is for the supercars such as a LaFerrari or a LaFerrari Aperta. Although brand new cars they came automatically with a yellow book, proving that they were real Ferraris (after you had just spent 1.5 M $ or whatever to buy it). The white book was issued for classic Ferraris that could not get a red book (because they did not meet the criteria) but are of special historical interest (like the 250 GT SWB Breadvan #2819 GT).

    Marcel Massini
     
  21. turbo-joe

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    so ferarii give out a red book, a yellow book and a white book.
    white book for cars not matching the criteria for a red book, ok, but what are the criteria for a special historical interest? only a famous constructor or famous owner before?
    what else of colored books ferrari give out?
     
  22. miurasv

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    #198 miurasv, Jun 30, 2019
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    The Classiche White Book is not for all cars that could not get a Red Book as such, as they do not meet that criteria, but specifically that they are of Historic Interest, being raced in period in that exact specification, or being shown at International Concours, or in recognised publications in that specification.

    See here: https://auto.ferrari.com/en_EN/news-events/news/ferrari-spa-by-ferrari-classiche-issues-attestation-for-vehicles-of-historic-interest-to-breadvan/
     
  23. miurasv

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    As well as the Breadvan, 2819GT, another example of a Ferrari with a Classiche White Book is 250 GTO 4153GT. This is because it has the engine from a 25O GT SWB Berlinetta, 2445GT, a tipo 168/61 Comp. engine, and not a correct 250 GTO tipo 168/62 Comp. engine. The engine had been dry sumped/converted to GTO spec. It won its most famous race, the 1964 Tour de France with this engine, so can achieve White Book Classiche Status as being a Ferrari of Historical Interest if meeting all other criteria. Before 4153GT was last sold, the then owner acquired the original engine, so it may well be able to get a Red Book if the original engine was installed and then attested.
     
  24. Marcel Massini

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