Since Maranello is so concerned that the certified cars remain original does that mean the factory is planning to start supplying parts for legacy cars?
To be fair to them, parts availability has always been pretty good considering the age and limited numbers of some of the cars involved. Whether that is solely down to the factory, or more down to the likes of Maranello Concessionaires and other interested enthusiasts, is another thing.
I was told that the factory sold the spare parts service (and royalties) of the old cars more or less 30 years ago. I'm not sure if that is true, but all the Original spare parts I purchased here in Italy came from Great Britain. Maybe anyone here knows more about that. ciao
Lots of parts were manufactured by 'Marpart', which was MC. I think the factory released the drawings etc to them, but I don't know the details. These days I think we are more 'Britain' than 'Great'.
Ciao Alberto, I, too, heard something similar a number of years ago. In fact I have found that Maranello Classic parts seem to have the largest availability of older Ferrari parts. Perhaps it was my "luck" that they seemed to have what I needed? Hard to say, but I was certainly impressed by their available inventory. Saluti da Salvatore
From what they have told me, Maranello Concessionaires bought all of the old spare part stock from Ferrari Spa a few years ago and they are also the single distribution channel for all newly manufactured parts from the factory for cars older than 355. These two scenarios formed the basis of 'Maranello Classic Parts'. Any original Ferrari part for 348 or older comes from them if it is old stock from the factory or new manufacturing.
So , it took me 2 days to check this claim out, and so far I have not found anything applicable in the United States. I have found that the topic is being discussed but nothing that I have found is official. So I can say that this is not a real thing in the States at this time. Something of interest to me UNOFFICIALLY is that it's being discussed that if a car has been regularly serviced at a Ferrari Dealership, that said car may qualify for a no-charge or reduced fee Classiche ! So it would seem that it may be a reverse money grab... that an owner would be getting something for free and not the other way around. While I understand the initial thought process of some getting up in arms , I do not understand the hostility and willingness to condemn a program that hasn't officially hit the market yet. ( In the US at least ) I am open to digging deeper if it has hit the market down under, send me a PM even, I will help flesh out the details and facts. There are a lot of eyes on these thread(s), I will try and update when something confirmed or official hits to try and help get the facts out there. S
Posted this in a similar thread in the vintage section a couple of days ago but more relevant here. Interesting Classiche claim to be able to supply any part. It will of course be at a price! I would like some new rear light cluster surrounds for my GT4 "The whole thing bemuses me. I enquired casually about getting my 308GT4 Classiched here in UK. The man that knows told me that the fact I had installed modern radiator fans, rewired the lights direct from the battery using relays, the previous owner had fitted a modern Momo steering wheel (I still have the original) and that my car has Superformance 16" aluminium wheels rather than original Ferrari 14" magnesium ones was all OK. But it would fail without an original factory exhaust (a previous owner fitted a ceramic coated Stebro exhaust). I didn't even enquire about the price, but if the US price of 3K dollars relates to what I would have to pay in UK then why would I bother. Cost of a new exhaust plus the Classiche charge is not going to increase the value of my car by the amount of the cost. No-one in UK would take any notice of Classiche for a GT4, and probably not for any other 308 either. Anyway, I like my exhaust!"
It's not a problem that belongs to the owners that didn't have their cars Certified. Nodody is forced to have that Classiche certificate. We even still don't have the details nor the cost of the annual check. I think we should talk of this issue just when we will have all the details. My opinion still is that the red book is a very nice and pleassant thing to have, with or without the annual stamps on it ciao .
And no one that has one should be forced to pay to maintain it - if that was not part of the original agreement. There should be a grandfather clause in there somewhere
Recurring Classiche validity stamps are really a stupid idea. A great idea would be a reasonable Classiche "pre-sale re-certification" that an owner or prospective buyer can get on a Classiche certified car at/about sale time. Problem solved. Everyone happy.
My QV was 100% certified by Ferrari SpA on Jan 30, 1984. They even affixed a metal plate with a specific number to show that it received Ferraris blessing that it is 100% authentic
Touché. My car used to be a 98 point concours winner, but I pushed in the bumpers a couple of weeks ago, so there is no hope of it being Classiche Certified. I heave a sad heavy sigh. ... NOT! BTW, what is the correct pronunciation of "classiche"? I was at a technical session at one of the Bay Area's primo Ferrari restoration shops last weekend and the owner kept saying (IIRC) something to the effect of "classy-kay", which sort of surprised me.
That is correct. When speaking Italian, the letter "c" is always pronounced like the English hard "c" (like cat or car), never a soft "c".
That's not correct. Before A, O, U vowels & consonants (including H), it's a K (or hard C if you like). Before an I or E, it sounds as a CH as in chair, so Cinquecento and Ciao sounds as we all know they should.
That may be so, but does the h before the e make a difference because Classiche is definitely pronounced with the hard c. I checked this a couple of years ago with some italians.
Ciao chaps, I wonder which silly chunt came up with this idea? I think the 30 odd pieces of silver they may collect from those few who fall for this are worth far less than the goodwill of the community that they have lost.
Maybe they are trying to filter out us 3x8 riffraff to focus the Classykay program on the 1955 500 Mondials and such.
But there are almost none of those early cars left that aren't already well known. When a car is that valuable and its identity well documented, what real value is the classiche (and how good are their records really?) I think maybe this is aimed at the dealers who might get more for a car with a stamped book from buyers who can be convinced it is valuable.