Closed cockpits in F1

Looking at sutils crash again, he was going much much slower than Bianchi prior to him spinning out.

That tells some of the story.

 

A lot of USA tracks do one of two things to deal with this, either the pits are "closed" until the field is gathered, and any car that has work done prior starts at the back of the field if they feelt the need to come in anyway. The other thing done over here is some tracks do not score laps under yellow.(common on short tracks that might be only 1/4 mile)

 

I hear what you're saying mate but if you watch the race again you'll see Sutil bins it , the tractor comes out and a lap later Bianci hits.

Now if the SC had been called BEFORE the tractor came out and they form up behind it then there is NO way Jules can misbehave and hurt himself, ..... it's what happened all yesterday for 1000 kms

 

Had he hit the Armco it would have been bad but not as bad as it was.
Armco is designed to be hit. Tractors aren't.

 

Knee jerk reactions are F1s specialty

 

You really think track organizers have to ensure against F1 drivers getting injured?

Seriously?

 

And how exactly does an enclosed cockpit prevent track workers from getting injured? Or even the public?

BTW: Charly Whiting himself stated that no cockpit enclosure would have helped in Bianchi's accident.

 

I beg to differ. Care to give any examples of any "knee jerk' reactions from them in, say, the past 20 years?

In fact, many have argued that 'change' in F1 comes at a glacial pace and that's a large part of what's wrong with it......

Cheers,
Ian

 

Except that nobody beyond you is actually convinced that it would be a 'safety improvement'. Sure, some of them have commented that 'we should look into it', but I'm convinced they were paying lip service in response to questions; None of them are about to say 'stupid idea' at a time like this.

The FIA Institute did some serious research into the idea a few years back and concluded the potential downsides outweighed any positives.

Talk about knee jerk reactions. Never good. Particularly from someone who claims being ordered to crash deliberately is just fine.

Ian

 

What he said.

 

I still think closed cockpit won't solve much problems or safety issues. There's no guaratee with a closed cockpit, Massa's accident would have been prevented.

Rather, FIA needs to look properly at the safety of the marshals and the circuit workers. The way they delegate the race. How they can improvise to use tractors to take away stricken cars.

 

Hitting anything at that speed isn't going to be fun but given my 'druthers I'll take a Sauber over a John Deere any day.

 

It's all media hype to sell a few more motor magazines. If it was to happen we don't have F1 anymore, just expensive sports cars.

 

Like i said, there's only so much that the FIA can do. However, they can still prevent accidents like Japan from happening again. That's my point.

Drivers getting into accidents, and all, it's part of F1 and also has been. The speed, the risks, the dangers, it's all there. The FIA can't control drivers crashing.

Remember this? I'm amazed how he walked away...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiOPWFvu0Po]Robert Kubica Huge Crash At The 2007 Canadian Formula One Grand Prix [FULL HD] - YouTube[/ame]

10 years ago he probably be dead, but safety has improved lots.

 

It almost is 10 years ago

 

Time flies

Anyhow i meant 10 years behind 2007...

 

No knee jerk reactions here....

As noted before, they're doing their best....

Outside of Saillant, I think that's a pretty good commision.

No knee jerk reactions, just serious investigation.

Ian

 

Whiting wants to increase the lateral crash resistance of roll bars

 

+1000

 

There is nothing here to be 'LOL'ing about.

Or any obsession.

The bottom line is you claimed that a deliberate crash was ok.

I thought this incident may open your eyes as to why that is not true.

Obviously not.

Ian