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Clutch Problem

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  1. djh4570

    djh4570 Karting

    Sep 14, 2006
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    NewZealand
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    Danny John Hayes
    My car recently arrived from U.K its a 71 euro and has not been run for 6 months the engine has been restarted after going through the whole fresh oil, plugs out wind up the pressure thing.But the clutch wont work the theory is plates stuck .The clutch was new just a couple of hundred miles before it was shipped and it worked perfectly then.
    The mechanic said two choices
    1 drop gearbox and sort it out.
    2 Tow start it and shock it free.
    has anybody tried method 2 ? is the gearbox up to it ?
    or should i be safe and drop the box ?
    Any help greatly appreciated
     
  2. dignini

    dignini Formula 3

    Aug 21, 2005
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    Luigi Marazzi
    This is where one says, change your mechanic! You can do all clutch work without removing the gearbox. As the work involved is not particulsrly difficult, It might be a good idea to check and clean every thing out. The idea of towing a dino is not one I like.

    However the first thing you should do is make sure the clutch cable is good!

    Do you have movement in the clutch pedal? Is it loose or do you feel pressure? When you depress the pedal do you see (you need two people for this) corresponding movement at the actuating arm at the clutch end? Obviously if the clutch cable is kaput, you will not get the clutch to woik.:) Take it slow and one step at a time.
     
  3. jselevan

    jselevan Formula 3

    Nov 2, 2003
    1,873
    Danny - wait one!

    This is a common problem. I have had the same experience several (many) times in years past. Don't move, and nobody will get hurt.

    First, while this is worth a try as it is simple, it will not likely work. Place the car in first gear and have several friends, you know, the ones with scabs on their knuckles and monosyllabic grunts, rock the car and try to rock/roll the car while you sit inside with the clutch depressed. Show them where to place their hands to push such that they don't bend metal body parts.


    If this does not work, start the car in neutral on a street that you can work on. Hopefully your home allows you to push the car to the street while in neutral. Let it warm up. Turn off the engine. Now, with the friends still grunting, place the car in 1st fear, depress the clutch, and have the friends push you down the road as you turn the starter to start the car in gear. Keep the clutch depressed all the time. Once the car starts, give it some gas (to create torque on the clutch plate) and the clutch will eventually pop loose. Trust me, it will.

    This is really simple in practice. My explanation makes it sound more difficult. Good luck.

    Jim S.
     
  4. mikeyr

    mikeyr Formula 3

    Jun 17, 2004
    2,154
    Santa Barbara, CA.
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    yup, everything above.

    I have one car that regularly sticks its clutch since it stays outside and I drive it very little. Warm up the motor and shut it down, put it in gear and turn the starter over, as above it helps if a friend is pushing also. Works everytime.

    Also, as above you do NOT pull the tranny to get to the clutch on this car, your mechanic needs some training on this car and I don't recommend yours be the first one.
     
  5. djh4570

    djh4570 Karting

    Sep 14, 2006
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    NewZealand
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    Danny John Hayes
    Thanks for those words i will try that method and i have already decided not to use these people again they had the car four days and only actually did anything yesterday.
    They service two others which is why i went there and in a country with only 27 dinos thats a lot.Hopefully i can get it going soon i have had it 3 months and still havnt driven it.
    Thanks again
     
  6. dignini

    dignini Formula 3

    Aug 21, 2005
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    Never had a clutch stick on any car I've owned; can someone please explain to me why they think it happens to them, and can we discuss a away of avoiding it happening? Choice of clutch plate material for example, I'm sure it aint a good thing.
     
  7. jselevan

    jselevan Formula 3

    Nov 2, 2003
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    dignini - I was surprised when I experienced my first stuck clutch 25 years ago (in the Dino). I spoke to an experienced Ferrari mechanic at the time and he told me what to do. I was suspect. After breaking the clutch loose as described below, I began to believe. After several subsequent occurences and successful resolutions (as described below), I have become a believer.

    Apparently, when left to sit for a period of time, a surface rust grows on the pressure plate which "etches" its way into the porous clutch friction material, acting as an adhesive. Once the clutch breaks loose, the first few activations of the clutch repolishes the surface.

    I guess one has to see it to believe it.

    Jim S.
     
  8. dignini

    dignini Formula 3

    Aug 21, 2005
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    I believe, I guess I never left mine to grow moss:)
     
  9. mikeyr

    mikeyr Formula 3

    Jun 17, 2004
    2,154
    Santa Barbara, CA.
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    Mike Rambour
    yup rust...has happened to me only when I let the car sit outside in the rain for a few months. No not the Dino :) but other cars.
     

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