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CO Setting for Various Engines

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  1. 2dinos

    2dinos F1 Rookie

    Jan 13, 2007
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    Engines 101 or what I wished I asked my Thermo prof:

    Confirmed with a 5 Gas Analyzer - The CO setting on say an injected 308 or 512 works out to be ~2% for a pretty efficient stoich value of ~14.7 A/F ratio. But on an older hi-perf engine like a Dino, or 275, at 14.7 A/F, the CO is ? (like ~5+%). Does this sound right, and if so, any good explanations?
     
  2. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #2 Steve Magnusson, Jun 18, 2010
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2010
    You are leaving the word "idle" out of your question. With CIS, the atomization of the fuel at idle (when the air velocity is quite low) is still pretty good; whereas, with a carb, at idle, the fuel is just dribbling in in big drops ;) -- consequently, the carb idle spec needs to be a little overly rich to prevent occasional lean mis-fires. A carb set for 5~6% CO at idle probably won't be running quite that rich at cruise, but it's the variability in a carb that necessitates running richer overall than an injected set-up (i.e., stoichiometric isn't a different thing for carb vs injected, but, with less variability, a system can run closer to stoichiometric without going under and lean mis-firing).
     
  3. 2dinos

    2dinos F1 Rookie

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    so if a carb could atomize precisely and consistently, the idle CO could be ~2% ?

    Thanks!
     
  4. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Sure -- although the guys reporting only 7~8 MPG in a 400 must have something else not quite right with their fuel delivery IMO.

    The civilized world was very lucky that an IC engine could run well over a very wide A/F range (even if the emissions weren't great). The early, early carbs were truly primitive -- fuel dripping on a wet sponge ;)
     
  5. blkprlz

    blkprlz Formula 3

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    I'm pretty sure the work shop manuals call for 1%-2% CO, & I find that 2% is a little too rich.
     

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