Compare a 360 Modena to a 993 TT

Completely different, hard to compare.
I considered a 997S before getting the 360.
Keep the Porsche and enjoy them both.

 

I jumped out of a 993TT 3 months ago (after 4 years ownership) into a GT3, then into the 360 this week.

Honestly, you are in for some real fun. Yes the Turbo is fast, but the 360 is hardly slow.
It's all over after 5500 rpm. The 360 is just warming up.

I think the 360 handels better, is nicer inside, looks so amazing and has a sound a TT can only dream of. Plus it feels so much more nimble.

The experience is so different, in a very good way. If you are like me you will know right away that you made the right decision.

I'm sorry, but in comparison the TT is just a bit boring.

hey, you'll see.
Make sure you come back and tell us what you think.

 

993TT is a classic with better lines that 997 and ofcourse 996 in my opinion. The Ferrari feelling is unique, though. Its 400 real horsepower. You will noticed from the first moment.

 

Coming from a 911 I think that you will be disapointed with the performance of the Ferrari.

I know I was.

What the Ferrari has going for it is 1) style 2) racing history (even more so than Porsche) and 3) sound. Much better in all three respects.

But, performance wise" "you've got to be kidding me."

 

You have to learn how to drive your Ferrari. If you drive it like a 911, of course you're going to think that. Learn to drive it above 4k RPM, press the gas pedal down... it'll move.

 

The 993 NA or TT is an icon. It's the last of a very long and storied line of sportscars. It has floor-mounted pedals, full-frame doors, and the same A-pillars (and lots of other parts) as a 1974 911. Basically the same block that won international championships in the 1970's and 1980's. It is hand-built with old techniques and old technology. The TT with AWD is the outcome of decades of out-engineering the flaws of the original SWB 911. If I were fortunate enough to own one, I would never sell it.

The 360 is an incredible car - certainly more modern and probably faster, quicker, and more visceral than the 993TT. But, in the long run, it's probably going to be a footnote in a long line of incredible V8 Ferraris with longitudinally mounted V8's and 5-valves per cylinder. The last of that line will be iconic as well; the 360 is a wonderful example of on-going development with a sportscar concept.

I'd feel like I was cheating history if I bought a 993TT and drove it daily on the "mean streets," parked it at the mini-mall and the office, and used it as a grocery-getter. My new 360 is my DD and I feel just fine about it - in fact I love it - just like I did with my 996 for 83K miles.

Keep the 993, drive the 360.

Forza,
David

 

+1

 

Interesting how quickly you changed your mind. you were pretty hot the 993 on rennlist.

 

well those porsche turbo are just fast cars, which is no different than cars like GTR or even some other cheaper car built for speed.

GT3RS/Ferrari different story.

exotic.

 

I understand when you've owned a car for a few years a new one can seem more exciting. I bought a 993tt and then an F430 spider a few months later, so I was not at all tired of the Porsche. In comparing them, they are quite different and it's wonderful to be able to own both.

The shocks in the 993 were worn out, so I had them replaced with Bilstein PSS10's. This, plus a good alignment and corner balance, made for an incredibly nice handling car. I track it and have had several instructors drive it and they always remark how nice it feels. One even schooled some newer Porsches on slicks (I've just got street tires) while scaring me to death. The 993 brakes are the best I've ever had, just incredible. My 430 has steel brakes, not ceramics, and they are very good but not quite as nice a feel as the Turbo's.

I understand why sports cars have gotten bigger through the years, and I don't mind the size of the Ferrari, but I like the footprint of the 993. It feels very compact and connected. And the smaller size is even nice regarding parking in my garage and, when washing it, there's less to wash. If I could shrink the Ferrari 10% even though cornering would be a little slower, I'd do it.

Of course, sound-wise, the Ferrari makes everything else sound wimpy. Before the 430 I thought the Porsche sounded okay, but not any more. My 430 is a paddle shifter and, while I'd always want a 3 pedal car around, the F1 transmission is pretty cool and a lot of fun. I like high reving and rear wheel drive. The AWD of the Porsche is practical but not quite as fun as being able to step the rear end out on demand.

The 993 gets attention from those that know it's the last generation of the air-cooled cars and the best looking 911. But the Ferrari gets attention from everyone. I'm not a big fan of this, but have gotten used to it and I normally just look straight ahead and don't pay much mind to it. But, especially with the top down (which is great, btw) people sometimes shout or otherwise comment and I'm nice to everyone. So far I've never heard anything derogatory, and no one has tried to race me in either car. It's not that fun droning on a crowded freeway and I usually take a slower, but less crowded way when I drive one of them to work. Any trip in the Ferrari requires planning and I'm not comfortable parking it anywhere where I can't see it. I'll park the Porsche some places for awhile, but not just anywhere. It's red and not nearly as stealthy as, say a silver 997, so people still drive or walk over by it to check it out.

I'm tall and after driving the 430 I'm always stunned by the fantastic visibility of the 993. The windshield is high, the visors and rear view mirror are out of the way and you can confidently see to change lanes. None of this is true of the F car with the top up and especially changing lanes at night is not much fun.

If I could only have one which would it be? Why that thought is simply too terrible to contemplate. It would be like giving up one of your cherished girlfriends. And don't give me that stuff about the sturdy, reliable German girl vs. the high-maintenance Italian supermodel. Maybe the 997 is a sturdy girl, but not the 993 Turbo. And as for maintenance, I just spent $8,000 rebuilding the 993 transmission with steel synchos and lots of "while you're in there" stuff while the 430 (newer and admittedly with fewer miles) hasn't needed anything.

 

Quadcammer.
Yep I agree. But things change. People change. That's all.
I will not forget my time with the TT. It was an amazing, super reliable car, but there is no question, that for my driving skill the 360 is just better. Thats what it comes down to for me. Basically I couldn't use the power as easily as I can now with the 360.

One day I would like own another TT, but I would still want to have the 360 as well.

 

That is good to hear. These cars are really expensive to maintain.

 

Aren't you the one complaining that your 430 is slower than a Corolla?

I really don't think you have a concept how to drive a low (relatively) torque/high RPM car.

Most people here have come from a 911 in one shape or form. Your 430 should be killing your Carrera. Do this, put it in sport mode and hit the gas pedal. Don't worry about shifting and let the car shift itself at redline. If by gear 4 you don't think it's fast enough, get rid of that car, because there is something seriously wrong with it.

 

May be 2nd gear should be enough.
except turbo S and above, speedwise those are ok....but yeah who cares.

 

Everyone has their own "taste" even if it is in the minority. There was one guy on rennlist that "test drove" a 360 Stradale and a 500cls. The only thing he liked better than the CLS was the brakes on the stradale. Every other measure he preferred the Mercedes. Naturally, I didn't waste the keystroke to respond.

There are people out there that find the look of the Gremlin as the sexiest automotive car on earth. A smiliar minority find a 430 slower than a Corolla...

 

Sold my 996 turbo two years ago after 4 years of ownership and miss it ever since. Porsche makes great cars and the 911 turbo is the best usable super car in my opinion. The Ferrari on the other hand is best for those special drives around town. It's an exciting experience just to fire up the engine and changes gears at full song. Apples and oranges and I see you have two great examples from two of the best marques.

 

well if all you're after is some exotic quality, cool.

comparing a 993 turbo to a GTR is plain silly. A 997 turbo sure.

A 993 turbo has a lot more characteristics of the rawer air cooled turbos that came before it than the later cars. Hell, just look at the 1960s interior and industrial engine.

The 993tt is not the end all be all, but its a very good sports car with some charm.

 

No. The 911 is faster. Just a fact. I like the 430 for other reasons but blazing speed is not one of them.

 

Actually I do. The 911 is an even smaller displacement, lower torque engine and yet it is faster than the 430. Just my observation.

 

And the GTR is faster than the 911 BIG Fing Deal... I still wouldent buy one and it's cheaper.... "it's faster" really is that why we buy Ferraris people?

 

Congrats buddy I'm sure you'll have lots of fun with the fcar. As far as exhaust goes its a must. The driving experience just gets better 100x + IMO. Been toying around with my 360 for 9 months now. Started from bone stock to Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login