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Concerns re Warranty Extension with minor modifications GTC4 Lusso

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  1. scottevestceo

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    #1 scottevestceo, Oct 3, 2023
    I have a 2017 GTC4Lusso currently covered by the Power15 warranty until April 2024. I fully intend to renew the warranty as long as I can, primarily due to concerns re the PTU issues.

    I just learned however that the installation of Capristo X pipe, mufflers, along with the valve switch would prevent Ferrari from allowing me to extend the warranty. Seems crazy to me as I'd be happy to waive any issues relating to the exhaust on the "POWERTRAIN" warranty, since I don't think that would be covered anyway.

    I recently purchased a used Capristo X pipe and mufflers, but haven't installed them yet. In light of this information, I will not install them. But I did install the Capristo Valve switch.

    So, my question to the forum is: Do I need to now remove the Capristo Valve Switch before my warranty inspection in April?

    Alternatively, I could just leave the valves open all the time, as that's the way I am using it anyway, provided this won't impact the warranty.

    Same question regarding my hardwired Radar detector, which is simply hardwired to the circuit and run to the windshield, hidden as much as possible. In fact Portland Ferrari helped me hide the wires without mentioning this might impact the warranty.

    Is there an easy way to find out in advance if the valve switch and radar would prevent the warranty extension, or if I could simply remove both during the inspection to get the coverage?

    Any input would be appreciated. Also, will likely need to resell the Capristo mufflers and X pipe since will not install if I can't get warranty extended,

    Thanks much!

    Scott
     
  2. squishy

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    #2 squishy, Oct 3, 2023
    Hi Scott,

    From what I’ve seen in this forum, the answer seems to be “It depends”. Some dealers are stricter than others. However, if they have to go to Ferrari HQ for something (warranty renewal?), it might not even be in their control.

    Regarding a hardwired radar detector, my dealer actually installed the hardwire kit for me. They told me they could do it, so I bought the kit and had them do it.

    Steve


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  3. montegoblue

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    #3 montegoblue, Oct 3, 2023
    Depends on the dealer really; I know for a fact that built-in radar detectors are OK and no issues there; have heard mixed reports on aftermarket exhausts.
     
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  4. scottevestceo

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    #4 scottevestceo, Oct 3, 2023
    Crazy how the answer depends on which dealer is involved? I live in Ketchum, Idaho; there are no Ferrari dealers nearby. The closest is SLC, which is 4.5 hours away, but they said that installing the mufflers would make it impossible to get the warranty extended. Alternatively, I could drive to LV, Portland, Seattle, or SF. Crazy I need to dealer shop and drive 11 hours to get this done.

    To make things more complicated, I have a timing issue as well.

    My current warranty expires on 4/20/2024, and I want to ensure I get it renewed/extended in a timely manner. Ideally, I can combine my warranty extension with my next annual service, which is on 3/24/24 or 12,500, which ever comes first. At this rate, I have driven ~9000 miles and will likely hit 12,500 before 3/24/2024, likely around December or January. Would it be possible to extend my annual service slightly, e.g. to ~14,500 miles and schedule the warranty extension with my annual service in March 2024, otherwise, I would have to get annual service done around January-ish, then come back ~2-3 months later for the warranty extension inspection?
     
  5. sexybeast

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    #5 sexybeast, Oct 3, 2023
    you could fix your timing issue first, get your car back and then install the full exhaust and enjoy. at the time of your extension remove it and then reinstall after your power warranty is in effect....
     
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  6. scottevestceo

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    #6 scottevestceo, Oct 3, 2023
    Seems like a bit of a silly exercise, but on the cost may be worth it. How much do you think it should cost to have the exhaust removed twice per year
     
  7. ANOpax

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    #7 ANOpax, Oct 4, 2023
    Hi Scott,

    i know this goes completely against the question (does the exhaust affect the warranty?) and your desire to renew the NP warranty. But the obvious solution is not to bother with the warranty. That way, you’re free to do what you want on the exhaust front and free to save the warranty money to spend on things which fail but aren’t otherwise covered by the warranty.

    I’m sure you’re aware that the general forum view is that the warranty isn’t worth it.

    As an example, I have saved the warranty cost every year into a maintenance fund and am now $49k in the black, despite paying out $5k on new shocks for my wife’s F12 which, incidentally, wouldn’t have been covered by the warranty. If my PTU fails, I’ll ship it to the good guys in the UK who permanently fix these things for around $12k and I’ll still be $37k better off than if I’d taken the warranty (actually, that’s $42k as the F12’s shocks aren’t covered so would have been an out of pocket expense in addition to the money spent on the warranty! :confused:)

    The only time it makes sense to take the warranty is when the car is new to you or if you intend to sell it in the next year or two. But the fact that you’re planning to mod the exhaust suggests to me that neither situation applies.

    Good luck and I hope you find an acceptable solution.
     
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  8. scottevestceo

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    #8 scottevestceo, Oct 10, 2023

    I would take the risk if the PTU had been replaced, but given the likelihood of that high ticket item, I’d rather just have Ferrari Power15 warranty. Also, I expect to continue putting 10k+ per year, and thus more likely for me that something may happen that will cost more than the cost of the warranty insurance. At least that’s my thinking now.

    FYI: the open valve from Capristo sounds great. Frankly, I have not once closed it. Wondering if easy to remove Capristo valve switch and just leave it to pernament open position, hoping that in this case Ferrari won’t view this as problematic. Thoughts are appreciated.
     
  9. robstand

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    #9 robstand, Oct 11, 2023
    I'm certainly not an expert, but I would suggest double-checking with one to ensure that the change in backpressure wouldn't affect the exhaust in a way that Ferrari could deny the warranty extension.
     
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    #10 scottevestceo, Oct 11, 2023
    Honestly, not sure who/how to check in advance as my AD has not been terribly helpful. I really do prefer the valves open all the time. I wish there was clarity on this information available.
     
  11. gilly6993

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    #11 gilly6993, Oct 12, 2023
    I have a Kline exhaust on my car with 200 cell cats. No issues having it certified by my dealer. I do believe every dealer is different. Just like other manufacturers. My local Dodge dealer told me my entire warranty will be void if I put an exhaust on my Redeye…..dealer in a neighboring town told me no issues and would be happy to install it.


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  12. scottevestceo

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    #12 scottevestceo, Oct 12, 2023
    so do I have to dealers shop to see who would both install and certify
     
  13. Maximus1973

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    #13 Maximus1973, Oct 13, 2023
    My dealer actually installs a valve switch as standard on all new ferrari's sold...!
    It won't affect your guarantee as nothing is done to alter the in and/or outlet of the car.
     
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    #14 scottevestceo, Oct 13, 2023
    That is great to hear. Saves me a lot of trouble. Which dealer is it?
     
  15. Maximus1973

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    #15 Maximus1973, Oct 16, 2023
    based in Europe....
     
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  16. 350MH83

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    #16 350MH83, Oct 19, 2023
    At the end, it all comes down to your dealer. They can most probably void the warranty if they want. In some cases, you might have a case against them, if you can prove the modification is not linked to the fault you are asking them to fix. But not everybody is ready to go to court over small things like that. A lot of dealers prefer to close their eyes on this, as a), they make money if you install the aftermarket exhaust at their place instead of an indie, and b) they generally want to keep their customers happy. a returning customer is the cheapest customer to sign.
     
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  17. scottevestceo

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    #17 scottevestceo, Oct 19, 2023
    Yea, my dealer SLC Ferrari informed me that per Ferrari, they would not renew my warranty if I have modifications, which includes a muffler. I suspect that they'd cover warranty issues, but not extend the warranty, which is the issue for me.
     
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