Confirmation on timing

no, so it must be something else.
What did you do on he car, and why?

 

The oil filler is on the 1-4 bank and when those marks are lined up the timing mark should be on the PMS 1-4.

Did you take notes when you took it apart?

 

Somewhere in my dusty, damaged old mind, I remember the illustration being numbered wrong. Please check that further.

 

It's not "incorrect", but it's been rotated so that the bottom of the figure corresponds to the firewall location (i.e., imagine that you are standing with your feet on the seat bottom cushions and are looking down on the engine). The long "snout" on the crankshaft is the end where the timing belts are located.

 

Correct! That's what I now remember! Rui Gigante and I went through that when he was working on his 328.

 

EASY mistake. I mean, how often do we see the engine with both ends of the crank exposed?!

 

just to eliminate all misunderstandings

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well that's a nice picture! i'll keep it, thanx!

 

It's easy once you recognize the outline of the YORK A/C compressor on the timing belt end..

And not to be too obvious but my valve/cam covers have the cylinder number embossed into them, don't the later cars have this????

Good luck man! We are all rooting for you!

 

the covers of my 328 say 1/4
twice...

 

And that is correct. It shows the firing order for each distributor.

 

I hope the valves survived.

 

He could have the cams/valves right and just have the distributor/rotor indexed wrong?

I'm just a dog watching TV.....

 

He said he timed it at PM5-8 with the cam timing marks lined up. The cam timing marks are set at PM1-4.

 

I don't know what you mean by distributor/rotor indexing but,
confirm, by using a stoboscope on the flywheelmarks, that ignition is indeed right
A nice blue spark is fine but it should light up at the right moment too

BTW you should smell a stark pertrol fume by now.. (do you?)

 

And although you can't easily confirm that the spark is occuring at the right time (with static measurements), you can verify to which plug wire the distributor is pointing given each of the flywheel marks. If it were mine, I would go back to first principles, set it to firing TDC on #1 (valves closed) and THEN study every element of the ignition alignment. Two cents please.

 

Swapping coils isn't goingto do it. From your statement in the first post you have the cams timed wrong.

 

This thread was referenced in another thread, I hadn't read it until now. Up above there is a picture lableled "Firing Order on 308 Engine." And it has the cylinders numbered. That is NOT the firing order, that is the cylinder numbers. The engine does not fire the cylinders in order from front to back, one side and then the other, it goes from bank to bank back and forth. This picture will encourage misunderstandings, not prevent them. It is either titled wrong or is numbered wrong.

 

NO!!!
When the timing marks for the 5-8 bank are lined up,
the flywheel pointer should be pointing to the PM1-4 vertical mark. At the same time, the 1-4 bank timing marks must be lined up. ie: the cam-cam cap timing marks for BOTH banks must be lined up with the flywheel on the PM1-4 mark.