Consolidated: Second Run/ Hostile/Old/Young/ EC v. Hart, et. al. Discussion

i was accused of making comments about certain ppl are old.
i don't like to be accused for things i have not done.
so since NNO wanted to defend bruce(who made the accusation), i figured i would test him out to see how he reacts when i wrongly accuse him.

got it? i wasnt trying to really accuse him. just set him up. but if u want to take this seriously, then i suppose bruce is not worth your time either since he lied in public about me??

 

wtf does the "age" thread have anything to do with this?
i responded to you yesterday in a nice manner. but if you wish to continue talking stupid shiet then i will not sugarcoat it either.

this is Ferrarichat, i posted run and pics about 5 ferrari's.
this is the tri-state section, all 5 owners are NY residents.
i did not use foul language, i did not use the so called gangsta typing.
i shared the run, with pics and description, in the local NYTS section.
what the fock is your problem??

 

gladly be at your service, sir

 

Found this...a picture is worth a thousand words. This should end the old vs not old debate. Any questions?
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Just FYI, there's a reason why Rob Lay created the PM function on F-Chat.

 

LOL...! i can't help but respect the attempt... Very nice... Unfortunately for your argument's sake, this whole thing between you two started a while back when the word "*****" appeared... Now us younguns understand the urban colloquialisms of today's generation, but the more seasoned veterans don't see them in the same light... Thusly, it becomes offensive to some people... It's fine to use it in the welcomed environments, but some places, namingly FerrariChat, don't react too kindly to such 'terms of endearment'...

 

Hubert... Bruce said the following: "COMMENTS FROM WOODEAR, AND SOME, MAKE ME SCRATCH MY HEAD....."

He didn't say anything insulting, he didn't make any accusatory remarks, he merely stated that some of Chris' comments are confusing... That's all... Chris came back with "that time of the month" comments - what a great way to diffuse potential tension... So i didn't see beef coming from Bruce, but Chris was more than happy to be at the foot of the grill...

Lastly, i'm hard pressed to sit back, lean into some old school swagger and wonder how many here who really talk about "beef" and "gangsta" and "*****" this and whatever that, were ever really a part of that culture... Or is just fun to portray it...?

 

Not to hijack the thread or purposely digress to something else or trying to change the topic...

What happened to Carbon's Post Whore status?!!

 

Chris (Woodear): Here is what i posted in the "age" thread:

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It was one of many issues that came up in the "hostility" thread and while age may have something to do with the differences in perception, it's certainly not the core issue to me.
When i went after a couple of the posters for the faux gangster thing, i learned that there is a general perception that the F-Chat NY board is considered lame, but still worth visiting, by some of these guys, although they don't take it seriously. As to my views that the "gangsta" stuff was alienating to others, i got the "you're an old guy and don't understand current culture" bit. But, my *****, as it turns out, really has less to do with fake gangsta stuff than it does with this sense that the constant hi-fiving each other over nonsensical private jokes is off-putting to contributors old and new (or young and old for that matter), and that there is a certain amount of hostility there that is not welcoming to others.
The whole EC "thing" is something that these guys are more than welcome to do elsewhere, as they have, but, when taken to task for cluttering the board with nonsense,and creating a negative atmosphere, I'm told that, while the NY section is a "joke" it's still fun for these guys to post there. Obviously, people can post what they want, and will, but other than playing to an audience, i don't see the point; perhaps it's just to be provocative, but oddly, what these guys don't get is that their playa act is not really very outre; in fact, it's a parody of itself. So, I for one, will persist in demanding that this section of the board maintain a high standard of contributions, despite the amusement value it seems to generate from our hostile friends.

In the meantime, if this makes me look inflexible and narrowminded, so be it. Ironically, I'm asking people to express themselves openly, and thoughtfully, rather than hiding behind some fake persona that is, pardon the pun, "played out."
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Did I misstate anything? Isn't it true that you said you have little to no respect for this section, and that you post here for amusement, ie essentially to provoke?
So, please tell me what i am missing? Is there any other reason why you are here?

 

"if someone says beef to u, wouldnt u want to comment back? or u take it like a vagina?!"

Another thought-provoking statement from one of the regular posters here on the New York section.

 

i am wondering if we are actually talking about the same thing here.
my only point in this thread, is very simple:
i don't like to be accused by someone.

thats all. no battle, no bringing out old BS, nothing.

now if u would excuse me, i have guests coming over for dinner in 40 mins.

 

right.
so you can dish out, but can not allow others to fire back, right?

 

Age, as you and your boyz know, has nothing to do with it. Acceptance of others requires seeing beyond your own worldview, and to achieve that, it may take you more time than others. I am not judging you by age- in fact, the only time i even raised the issue was when i speculated that despite talking like a black ghetto person, and referring to your buddies as "*****s" and women as "vaginas" you probably have even less connection to black culture than I do. And, in that context, i speculated that you were probably in your 20's and Asian American. Now, you already tried to convert that into a racist remark,in the hostility thread, but the real point was, are you capable of independent thought, communicated in a straightforward fashion?
You said, in essence, that you choose to communicate here that way, largely because this section is a joke to you. And I said, in effect, if it's a joke, why are you here? That's my take... but, then again, i may be giving you more credit than your question really deserves...

 

1) yes, i did say that i have little or no respect to this section.
2) i don't think you have the right to equal amusement to provoke.
3) i don't think you have the right to judge if one should not be here simply because he has little respect for the place.

so, the 2) and 3) is what i think you are missing.

 

Right...! Looking back at my initial point, Bruce never accused you of anything... He said he got PMs from people... Then he said he doesn't understand some of the comments from the EC, and went on to name you and a few others specifically... Nothing wrong with saying he doesn't understand what you guys sometimes... He didn't come out of his neck with some left-field nonsense...

Enjoy dinner; i'm about to watch a movie in a few minutes...

 

hubie u need to leave like now to be at my house on time. no dinner served to late arrviers!

 

LOL...! i asked that it be removed so i could maintain a level of professionalism...

i asked that it be replaced with something else, but Rob, the old fuddy duddy that he is, refused to work with me on a change...

 

YOu said " 2) i don't think you have the right to equal amusement to provoke."

Why not? That's a pretty one-sided view, don't you think? Why can you, and not me? (particularly when my objective is to make this section more valuable and less of a joke but please leave that out of it in your answer, because even if my intentions were like yours, why wouldn't i have the same right?)

 

same answer as this question:
you have a lambo, why are you on FERRARI chat?

because we can.