Constructive Criticism and Area for Improvement for NY Region Moderator Ghost

Mind if I post my opinion?
I don't think this thread is appropriate here.
Please take it off-line with the other moderators.

 

Yeah, I am with Clyde, if you dont like ghost then dont read what he has to say!

 

you have got to be kidding me. You don't like how the job is done, then you do it. Ask Rob if you can be a mod. Rob will most likely say no. He chose Ghost because he thought that Vik would do a good job (which he has). Mods make decisions based on judgement. Every situation is different. The rules are simply guidelines.

 

isn't there a post you need to make on the ec board...

 

Hey no matter what I still have love for Pchop,Vik,Hubert,Noah,Rob,Noto,Clyde,Bailey,John Chen,Greg,Emil, and those that i respectfully forgot, and to prove it I say we have a big ass Pool Party
at my house this Saturaday, _any one ?

 

My ass isn't big enough.

 

Mine either, but if it happens, count me+2 in

 

Ah, the ol' "Puttin' on the Ritz" trick, aye?
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You obviously need to take your Summers on more lunches.

 

I have no problem with Vik, or his opinions. We're all entitled to them. Wheres all this coming from?

 

Looks like I missed all the action

 

John -

I wasn't going to spend time responding here since we've had this discussion many times over, but your posts on this thread are at times grossly misleading, so allow me to clarify a few areas:

- I've always asked for and accepted criticism both online and off. Last time this topic came up, the EC crew criticised in full force but despite multiple requests from multiple people few (if anybody) provide any concrete suggestions for improvement.

- My moderation has been consistent in taking enforcement against those that violate the rules of FChat. There are judgement calls that are made in every situation and you may have a different view on how you would handle a particular situation, but that doesn't make your view any more right or mine any more wrong. Life moves in shades of gray, and that's a fact.

- I have no idea where you get the idea that I preclude 308's or other people to join on a run. I love to drive, and include others that share this with me at every chance I get. Ask Clyde or jhsalah - you're way off base on this one.

- Although you advocate a balanced view, your personal biases and EC loyalties come through very strongly in your posts so I can't see or support impartiality here.

- Lastly, what do you mean that others are banned here and therefore cannot participate? You and I both know that a large number of the crew that were asked to leave or chose to leave have not only logged in under aliases, but are active (or actively monitoring this board). Why lie about the situation?

It's sad to see that the friendship we once had - which was very strong at one point and involved a lot of fond memories - has been replaced by anger, resentment and animosity on your part. These themes come through very clearly in your posts.

I'll leave it at that.

Best.

 

eat more bananas before you go to sleep

 

OK people, I'm still new here and I have a lot of respect for many people I have chatted with and gone on runs with, and I have no desire to get in the middle of this debate, nor, frankly, much interest in publicly discussing my own opinion of EC and all that. I don't see much to be gained, and I want to keep the friends I've made and make new ones... THAT SAID, there are two things I feel the need to say here, then I'm done:

First, PChop, I've met and hung out with both you and Vik (though only briefly in your case, and you probably don't remember who I am off hand), and it seems to me like you're both good guys. Clearly, you have some issues that, again, I don't mean to get in the middle off. But my humble opinion is you'll probably be more successful resolving these issues if you dealt with them one on one with Vik, off line. NOT trying to "shut you up" or anything here, just a bit of advice you are free to take or not.

Second, about what you said above, I drive a 308, and I was out at the "chic" club with the models, and I've been out on a few runs with Vik. I have not once felt like anyone "discriminated" against me because it's "only a 308". If you're accusing Vik of that, I would frankly be shocked if it were true he makes such statements, and I will reserve judgment and let Vik himself respond to that accusation. If you or Vik or anyone else does feel like a 308 "doesn't belong" with your 430s and Lambos and other new cars, that would truly be unfortunate, and quite a departure from what I thought the spirit of Fchat was.

Anyway, stuck my nose way too much into this already, but I've had a great time meeting people from Fchat and it saddens me to see this kind of conflict.

I hope it's resolved in a satisfactory way for all parties.

Let's get back to enjoying our cars -- no matter how new or old.

J.

 

shouldn't Hubert666 be posting this?

 

there is nothing wrong with constructive feedback?

so when Rob Lay starts a thread like what do ppl think about fchat? how can u make it better? so then u r saying that he shouldn't be doing this, and that all responses should be via PM or private email?

i dont think so

 

ask emil

 

I ain't Hubert666... although I do cop to being "Rene's Checkbook".

Oh ****. I just admitted to breaking an fchat rule.