Even without fans in the grandstands, F1 teams, track staff, TV crew... are hundreds of persons travelling around the world. Edit: plus thousands at the factories building the cars.
Agree on all counts, but this applies to all centers of power and knowledge. China’s an extraordinary case just by sheer numbers of its population. India a close runner up and therein also lies another significant reliance and interchange.
Yes, I agree. But as far as I know India is a democracy and has no world domination intentions like the Soviet Union had or China has today.
I hope it is run; ferry, hotels and tickets bought. Besides Historque will be lower numbers and outdoors; fingers crossed. even if it isn’t run unless we are banned from travelling we will be going; I can drive the course and mountain passes instead!
I'm afraid we will be far, far from being "out of that thing" in June; September would be nice...to me, the entire season is lost. Rgds
Ask the Pakistanis. The Indians have the bomb not for the fun. And the USA is a democracy too, and has a world domination. End of Off Topic.
A conflict with your neighbour, which got independent from you, is a small thing compared to what China is doing.
Or the fact that most people in the US won't get paid if they self-isolate, so they are going to continue going into work. Mortality rate seems to be around 1%; 'normal' flu around 0.1%. For comparison Spanish flu was 2.5%. So it is pretty serious especially considering that unlike flu there is no vaccine and it seems to be pretty contagious. You are looking at around 1/2 million deaths in the UK. I've read that the Italian heath system is pretty overwhelmed and we will get to where they are in a couple of weeks unless something is done very fast. So no, I don't think it's scaremongering and in the UK we should be doing more. Don't even get me started on the US ...
Spanish flu was 1918. Not really a valid comparison. Looking a recent outbreaks, MERS, SARS, H1N1, Swine, it is apparent that death rate goes inversely with number infected. If 1% holds up the data based on those outbreaks would suggest around 120,000 cases of Covid-19 in the US, 1200 deaths. If death rate is 5% the expectation would be around 12000 case, 600 deaths. But who knows.
500,000 fatalities in the UK you say? so by comparison that would be 13.7 million deaths in China from the virus. As of today they have about 3,000 deaths, so they have a way to go then. and as we have 8 deaths as of today we have another 499,992 deaths to get to your prediction. unfortunately your maths assumes everybody catches it; which clearly is not the case. (1.37 billion people in China, 80,000 confirmed cases. 65 million people in the UK, a panic end of the world 456 confirmed cases) panic buying of toilet paper and face masks this way please!!!!
The force of China and the United States is not comparable to India's either, but give them some time. You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs, some say.
Have you not seen the steps that China has taken ... and what is happening in Italy? Hopefully you and yours will be OK. Fortunately we have Boris to guide us.
That first bit about not getting paid, yup, the company I work for just reminded us hourly grunts of that. Sent from my Umidigi One Max using Tapatalk
Yes, but a friend here, who is a doctor, says that you know exactly how many casualities there are, as they check every death looking if they had the Covid-19 now, but you don't know how many infected there are, as they don't check all the Italians, but only those that feel bad. So probably the real infected number is more than we know. He says the mortality rate should be around 5% or even a bit ess. At present here there we had 13100 infected and 827 casualties, so if you calculate it should be 6.3%, but we still have 11228 infected, and some of them will die. So I guess 8-10% of the detected infected. My friend doctor says no more than 5% of the real infected, not checked included ciao
Patients with the new coronavirus keep the pathogen in their respiratory tract for as long as 37 days, a new study found, suggesting they could remain infectious for many weeks. In yet another sign of how difficult the pandemic may be to contain, doctors in China detected the virus’s RNA in respiratory samples from survivors for a median of 20 days after they became infected, they wrote in an article published in the Lancet medical journal. The new coronavirus has spread to 118 countries and infected about 125,000 people since first emerging in Wuhan, China, at the end of last year, evading drastic efforts by local authorities and subsequent containment attempts in other nations. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-12/coronavirus-can-live-in-patients-for-five-weeks-after-contagion?srnd=premium-europe
There's ton of information out there (from trustable sources) that explain the mortality rate and how IT DEFINITELY IS HIGHER than the flu. Go read some or watch some videos. Governments are not taking extreme measures and markets are collapsing for a simple cold, bare that in mind.
I propose quarantining (even self quarantining) those who are most at risk of being killed by this virus. If it was children, I'd say quarantine them for their own good. But it is old people and they are the most likely to need hospitalization, and most likely to find the virus fatal. I'm glad you are so healthy. I hope it also means that you are smart. I don't know if your immune system is as robust as the rest of you, but I would exercise caution while moving around in public, and perhaps even curtail your exposure out of the same sense of self preservation that guides the rest of your life style.
Plase check also the thread I started in the travel section https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/italy-and-coronavirus.617542/ I cannot write in both thread, sorry. Children are not much in danger with this virus: adults and (above all) old men are. ciao
I wish all the well to the UK, as to any country concerned. But even taking Boris into consideration...have a look at Spain: they had 350 confirmed cases four days ago, and more than 3.000 today! Either they underestimated it, or didn't diagnose everyone, but clearly the infection can spread very fast. Look at Scandinavia: Norway has 713 confirmed cases, with a population of only 5,5 million: multiply this by 12 to get the proportion of a country like Italy or France (about 65 millions inhabitants) and Norway isn't very far from Italy... Follow all the safety measures whenever possible, and hope for the best. Rgds
