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  1. Aircon

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    I don't engage in discussion with people like you.

    I just like ridiculing the ridiculous. You're it.
     
  2. greg246

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    Dr Sara Marzouk from Melbourne posted this, one for the Ivermectin worshippers also known as Antivaxxers (JJ just in case you thought I’d stop describing prodisease advocates in this way :p)

    https://www.facebook.com/100044147934160/posts/469624171185843/?d=n

    “A Tale of Two Meta-Analyses.

    Below are the abstracts from two published meta-analyses looking at randomised controlled trials of ivermectin to treat SARS-CoV-2 infection.

    In the first abstract, the authors conclude that ivermectin treatment results in a 56% reduction in mortality, with favourable clinical recovery and reduced hospitalisation. They also conclude faster viral clearance in the ivermectin group.

    In the second abstract, the authors conclude that there is NO significant effect on mortality. There is no significant effect on clinical recovery time or hospitalisation. They also conclude inconsistent conclusions regarding viral clearance in the ivermectin group, with more favourable outcomes only seen in studies at high risk of bias.

    Two abstracts, two completely opposite findings.

    Now look closer.

    Same authors.

    Same title.

    SAME PAPER.

    How can this be?

    It’s quite simple, really.

    In the first abstract, the authors had included two discredited studies that have since been retracted due to falsified data or unethical methodology.

    In the second abstract, the authors revised their findings without the two discredited studies, and were more stringent in their analysis. They then updated their findings.

    Ivermectin quickly goes from hero to zero when fake, false, fabricated data is taken out of the equation.

    This is why peer-review matters.

    This is why meta-analyses and systematic reviews are only as good as the data that goes into them.

    This is why scientific integrity matters.

    But the antivaxxers who misinform the vulnerable by sharing the former version have, not surprisingly, remained silent about the current version.

    Just in case anyone reading this thought that ivermectin was a good substitute for vaccination.

    - Sara”

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  3. moretti

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    Can't be true, it's on facebook
     
  4. greg246

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    And now it’s on Fchat so it must be true
     
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  5. moretti

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    The good old fchat fact-chequer :p
     
  6. JJ

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    It's so obvious. You want me. We can all see it.
     
  7. Steve355F1

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    Hate to break it to you, but you’re not special.
    He is the same to everyone….

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  8. JJ

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    Careful, you're assuming their gender.
     
  9. Aircon

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  11. moretti

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  13. moretti

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    Don't prove his point :p
     
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    It's bigger than that too. Read this.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/international/583124-why-we-should-all-pay-attention-to-chinas-influence-on-italian-politics
     
  16. moretti

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