they look different and the later GN 108 has the amplifier already integrated model change was in 1971/72
RE: Ferrari stamped on Voxson amplifier side Here in Italy I met with that circular, black ink writing at least on a couple of Voxson Sonar GN104/SR amplifiers. near the 9 pin black cable, on the side. The possible reasons may be 2: - a special identification for radio sets .....particularly well/double checked by Voxson, supplied directly to Ferrari....or more probably its dealers; - same as above....for Voxson car radio sale/service shops; I tend to believe the first reason was more likely. Something like first equipment gear.....a higher price but a better quality! I remember that to get one it was not so easy.....the car radio service shop had first to order it from a Voxson warehouse or wholesaler...then the car radio technician installed it. I imagine that each passage would have implied a price difference....Voxson 8-track has always been very expensive! At disposal for any further info. Bruno Ferrara Italy
ciao, please read my today post about it! I can clearly believe that somebody.....asked for Autovox Melody.....cassette players were already available but Voxson had chosen the 8-track! So, from a purist point of view.....it took a good italian cassette player only and Autovox was renowned for quality. All the best Bruno Ferrara Italien
Here's the Autovox that is on my car's buildsheet. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
04124, I purchased new in the 1972 from Orange Motors in Coral Gables, Fl. I installed a Becker Europa II with manual Hirschmann antennae. BTW, I have now fitted it with a Bluetooth hookup for my IPhone works great, it also has telephone incoming and outgoing calls. GL
If anyone has a Autovox face plate and knobs, please let me know. I'm missing those items and would like to reinstall the radio to its oem greatness. Thanks, Skipp
Very frequently an Autovox melody....shows on free italian ads sites like subito.it or kijiji.it or on eBay.it.....the best solution is to look for a scrap one, then you'll use knobs and front-face plate and have some spare parts too! If you want I may help you. All the best Bruno Voxson and other period car radio stuff expert Ferrara Italy
ciao, just for your help (to find the correct, original Autovox hardware!) All the best Bruno https://www.google.it/search?q=melody+363&rlz=1C1AVNE_enIT637IT652&espv=2&biw=1517&bih=708&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjV5qCF3LjSAhXEWiwKHZPuCY8Q_AUIBygC#imgrc=o9E3UO3WxVq9DM:
BUY IT NOW, IMMEDIATELY! I may help you, too. Considering the shipping cost to Usa...it will cost less than 100€!!! All the best Bruno
The radio in my car (01458) is a Becker Mexico CC. Not installed by the factory, but I assume it is period correct? I bought my car in Italy, and the radio had been removed. When I got it here, the shop that did some work on it installed the Becker Mexico CC. I don't even listen to it. There is nothing on the radio that I want to listen to.
Just to be clear, a few words need to be said about "documentation" regarding radios. If I recall correctly, none of the owners manuals show any photos of a radio installed in a Dino. The manual that I have for my late 1972 gts doesn't show a radio, and neither does the one for my early 1972 gt. Both were U.S. bound Dinos. Further, none of the official factory advertising materials I have show a radio installed, nor do they show an installed radio antenna mounting. The one factory advertisement that I have that comes closest to showing a radio is N. 41/70. By closest I mean that one of the Dinos displayed appears to have a radio blank-out plate to the immediate left of the glove box. None of the interior shots show speakers, speaker grill covers, or perforated door panels. So, it appears that wiring diagrams for later M and E models that depict how to install a radio are the only official documentation, other than individual sales records from the factory. As Matthias states in the Dino Compendium, "the car radios offered by Ferrari had limited operability in North America. So, the car radio was generally retrofitted by the importer or dealer. There were no limitations with regard to the car radio manufacturer or models. Radios from Blaupunkt or Becker were installed most frequently." Dino Compendium, p. 307. Thus, at least for the North American market, a Voxson or Autovox appear to be incorrect. Especially since most Voxson and Autovox radios were not marked AM and FM, and they covered incorrect frequency ranges for the North American market. So, I would say that you can install whatever radio you wish in a Dino originally destined for North America that fits, and that is period appropriate - as long as it is for the correct frequencies.
I'm not sure how you can say the Autovox is incorrect, when that specific unit is listed on the Ferrari build sheet for my car above. That's absurd.
I think the build sheet is pretty conclusive imo, just because the manual never showed a radio fitted doesn't mean anything.
I wrote about "documentation," and noted that the owners manuals do not mention an Autovox or any particular radio, and that none of the owners manuals show any photos of a radio installed in a Dino, nor do any of the official factory Dino advertising brochures that I have seen show ANY radio installed in a Dino. I also wrote that "it appears that wiring diagrams for later M and E models that depict how to install a radio are the only official documentation, OTHER THAN INDIVIDUAL SALES RECORDS FROM THE FACTORY." That last phrase referred to includes YOUR (Skippr1999's) BUILD SHEET/RECORD. Again, here's what Matthias wrote in the Dino Compendium - "the car radios offered by Ferrari had limited operability in North America. SO, THE CAR RADIO WAS GENERALLY RETROFITTED BY THE IMPORTER OR DEALER. There were no limitations with regard to the car radio manufacturer or models. Radios from Blaupunkt or Becker were installed most frequently." Dino Compendium, p. 307 (emphasis added). Therefore, WITH RESPECT TO THE NORTH AMERICAN DINO MARKET, I wrote that: "a Voxson or Autovox APPEAR to be incorrect. Especially since most Voxson and Autovox radios were not marked AM and FM, and they covered incorrect frequency ranges for the North American market." (emphasis added). What I wrote is implicitly correct subject to the preceding clause "OTHER THAN INDIVIDUAL SALES RECORDS FROM THE FACTORY." Thus, at least for the North American market, a Voxson or Autovox appear to be incorrect (again - UNLESS YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL SALES RECORD FROM THE FACTORY that mentions the installed radio). I closed by writing that "you can install whatever radio you wish in a Dino originally destined for North America that fits and that is period appropriate - as long as it is for the correct frequencies." Now, Skippr1999 - I fail to understand why you think that I said that your PARTICULAR Autovox is incorrect for your specific Dino, nor do I understand why you appear to have taken what I wrote so personally. Now, I agree, in part, with what TonyL says - the build sheet is "pretty conclusive," especially for a Euro Dino or a UK Dino, as to what would have originally been in a Dino upon delivery, but as above, it is a subtlety different matter for a North America destined Dino. I disagree, however, with TonyL's statement that "just because the manual never showed a radio fitted doesn't mean anything." What it DOES mean is that in the absence of a build sheet or sales record, the radio options are broader and include radios OTHER THAN JUST AUTOVOX OR VOXSON, especially in North America.
Several Becker models went through the same change from separate amplifier units to integrated units around the same time period.
dinos and daytonas were produced at the same time. many usa daytona came with voxson radios installed from factory. several magazines and brochures show pix with the voxson. so its possible some early dinos had the voxson factory installed also. later daytonas and dinos received the becker mexico. the mexico is a cassette player whereas the voxson was an 8 track player.
it`s pretty rare, that a Autovox or Voxson radio was factory fitted with a North America delivered US-model Dino... but possible as we can see on Skippr1999 invoice.... My Canadian delivered L-series #01100 had also a factory fitted Voxson unit. The reason must have been that the radio didn`t work in North America (European set up) so only the 8 track player or cassette player could be used in North America. So the general set up for the US-models was just the load speakers and electric antenna, no radio.... hence radio fitted by the dealership in the USA I don`t know of any Dino factory fitted with a Becker or Blaupunkt radio! Only Autovox or Voxson units!
Didn't take it personally and meant no disrespect to you. Just debating the subject and have no ill feelings toward you Skipp
The reason why the Voxson and Autovox units were so rarely ordered and often replaced by the customers were NOT that they could not receive US broadcasts. The AM (medium wave) band is essentially identical in US and Europe, so there is no such thing as Europe specific frequencies. Instead, I believe the customers changed them out when they realized that they could only receive AM stations, and no FM stations at all. They simply wanted the better audio quality and wider choice of programming that FM broadcasts offered. Also, the 8-track players were fading away at that time, being replaced by the more common cassette players. But I am sure that the most serious shortcoming was the lack of FM reception. Skippr1999, I think it is really cool that you have the Autovox radio that was specified on the build sheet. And you should be able to listen to all the AM broadcasts in the US on it. Nowadays it is mainly news and sports talk shows but still, it should work. If you want more choice of material, you could install a small AM modulator under the dash, or have the Autovox modified with a line input. Then you could feed in any other source you wish, FM radio, mp3 player, phone or whatever.
