Cost of replacing F1 Clutch on 355

How many miles do you have on the clutch? What type of driving do you do primarily?

 

Wow...stay away from that guy! Just had my F1 car's clutch done for $2350 with a new throw out bearing. $1800 without the bearing.

 

6.8 hrs of labor with the throw out bearing. Good question about downshifting. I think downshifting is easier on the brakes because you're using the engine to slow down the car along with the brakes. But I guess it wears the clutch as well.

 

I hope you told them to wake up to themselves!

 

Sounds like he was quoting an engine-out

 

I'm having my clutch done right now. When I purchased the car a year ago, I had a PPI done at a Ferrari dealer who said the clutch was 70% worn so I decided to do it this now as a precaution along with a few other things.

When my mechanic removed the clutch , there was still lots of clutch material left...but it had become soaked in oil from a leaking seal, There is no way to "save" the clutch as the oil has completely impregnated the clutch material so you have to replace it anyway.

Parts were $1,100. plus a new throw out bearing from Hills which is $550. Total labour is not finalized as the work is not yet complete.

Having the Fiorano sway bars installed along with a 360 steering wheel and the Fabspeed ceramic coated headers...should be a nice improvement !

 

I think the "heating up" of the headers is largely a function of several factors: 1. restriction in the muffler & cats 2. driving conditions-heavy traffic on a hot day? 3. engine state of tune
I'd say that the heat issue would be mitigated by driving a well tuned car at speeds above a creep. Eased further by a low restriction downstream. Most of the heat problems I've heard about have sources other than the headers. Ever see a race car with shielded headers?

 

You still need an SD2 to set PIS (point of initial slippage). Pump pressure is not the issue. Make sure you put in a new clutch position sensor and throw-out bearing while you are at it and then truck it somewhere to have PIS set or you can trash a brand new clutch in no time at all.

Hill Engineering T/O bearings come with the seals already installed, easier for non-professionals. I would call Daniel at Ricambi to see what needs to be done on the clutch position sensor. Later models are all inclusive, but the 355 sensor actually has (had?) service parts (magnet).

You sure you want to do this?

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

.......a 348 and no worry no more.......

//B//

 

Hi there,

Was wondering if you could help me. My car's clutch went dead and leaked clutch fluid everywhere. I think I may need to replace the whole clutch. Was wondering if you could help me by recommending the agent and parts I need? Can any part be saved you think if the whole assembly leaks?

Thanks very much

 

It's probably the throw out bearing that went. Not the end of the world if that is it. Replace with Hill Engineering part.

 

I'm at 62K miles and 50 track days on my original clutch.
Just saying....

 

I think I was about 2000 parts and labor with hill throw out bearing. FAST CARS did mine they could buy parts cheaper than I could. I had 10000 on mine and it was used when I got it. As stated previously by everyone the percent worn is a relative guess really doesn't mean much. My clutch was fine but heated up a little last few times I was backing up driveway and into garage. It said it was 115 percent worn I think or more. Lots or owners say they always get 20000 but some have more some less depending on driving, leaks, etc.

 

Driving style is everything as Mitch can attest. There is big effect here too with F1's. I have seen some silly drivers just burning up clutches inching into parking spaces. If I had an F1 I would seriously check out the marconi consumer tool from Nick Forza Ferrari or I would do the labor myself and resurface the plates and then drop off to dealer to do the SD1/2 PIS adjustment. Some say there is a way to do it without the machine on 355's. I have no clue how that would be done. A clutch for me take 2hrs and I don't take off the bumper and I can resurface clutch plate for under 30 bucks at Friction material long beach. What will double that time is cleaning and repacking those dang flywheels. There is a lot more to a "complete" clutch job on a 348/55 variant and $5000 is not out of the question at all. So there is the range. Your car not running because clutch slips it can be as low as 30 bucks to 5000. To the OP your post does not give enough detail to know what the shop is doing. If he is taking 40hrs he is not charging you enough at common $100/hr shop labor. I can easily spend more than 1500 in parts.

 

FBB never thought about flywheel packing even though I have read it numerous times. QuestIon for you is if they installed a new hill TO bearing and clutch friction plates would they also have repacked it.

 

Only in your dream garage. They don't mess with this process unless there is someting to indicate it is necessary and given how messy the job is I don't blame them. Hate that Kugel grease. Only had to do this once when little spots of grease were being thrown out the little holes. Yech. And yes, that is a weird way to "stabilize" the flywheel assembly.

 

Do you have a better idea when the crankshaft resonance point is within the RPM band of the engine ??

 

To be completely fair:: The clutch disk and plates are original. The throw out assembly has been replaced twice, and the flywheel re-greased 4 times. But still on the same clutch disk and plates.

 

I just had a shop quote me at $6500 to do the clutch. Started slipping a few days ago. Is that a normal cost as the last time I had it done was in 2005 and it was waaaaay less.

99 355 F1

 

Price a clutch kit (~$1600), subtract from estimate, divide that number by their labor rate to see the hours. Even assuming $1k of while-you're-in-there expenses, at a $200/hr labor rate that's 20 hours. Way too much.

 

You need to ask them what are all the parts included in the quote. Then we can make an educated opinion.

 

Talking sense like this isn't going to make you popular around here.