Could Massa win 2008 WDC

That race didn't cost them the championship. Poor decisions both on the track and on pit lane did it. I think Ferrari realizes this and I'm not so sure they'll go after this one.

 

Results are final.
We can speculate were the results might be if Renault was eliminated from the sport immediately after that crash.
Thus changing how the remaining teams would have reacted strategy wise throughout the season with Renault gone.

 

We have to consider that Massa was in the lead before the crash. Having said that, i think it's silly for the FIA to go and meddle with the results now. It's also silly to be crowned WDC under this kind of circumstances.

What a mess Flavio have made.

 

Well the poor decision wouldn't have happened if the Piquet accident would have not happened. That race did cost him the championship. IMO they should change the results based on the what position everyone was before the crash. If that happens than Massa is WDC!

 

Massa! (I mentioned this possibility in an earlier post).

 

If this where to happen, or even considered, Bernie might as well push the 'F1 self destruct' button.

 

I agree Bas. But, come to think about it, 2007 and 2008...definitely tainted championships..

 

I completely disagree. If this were to happen then there would be no such thing as a "final result."

 

F1 as it is now is a billions of Dollars business, much more that than it is a sport. It would be rather rediculous if the FIA were to govern in criminal matters. It is already crazy enough that all manufacturers voluntarily submit themselves to an autocratic body as the FIA.
In this case, I'd imagine a strong scenario for several criminal offences could be laid on the table, and the courts should have their days with it.

As far as the results go: How can results be final if it is subsequently disclosed that they may be the consequence of criminal action? That said, who would be happy with these results being amended accordingly, and what would be a reasonable amendment? Already now we have a situation in which the WC has become meaningless, a paper victory, to which situation neither the winner nor the 2nd placed have contributed other than by gathering points.Renault should be held responsible (wether they knew about it or not, they are the team owner) and subsequently be made to pay the price. What that price would be, I have no idea, as no money in the world will give F1 its' credibility back.

 

Results of 2008 Singapore G.P should be eliminated since the results were manipulated.

 

Bernie already said theres no way results of '08 can be reversed when the question was posed if Nico could get bumped up to P1 since Alonso's team cheated for the win. All this fiasco does is throw more "what if's" into a season that could've went so many different ways with all the other events of it.

 

I wasn't aware the marketing arm controlled the results of the races and legal enquires.

 

Reguardless what they do, does this not mean that hamiltons championship is tainted now anyway?

Cheers!

 

Maybe!

But there were too many factors and too many "what ifs" so in reality no unfortunately.

 

Fact is nothing will happen. The results were set in stone November 30th, 2008 - that was when the time frame to appeal the results expired. If they want to change the results they have to change the rules.

 

Changing the results of one race now does not give a true result to the entire season. No one knows how the following races would have gone if that race had gone differently. Driver's and team's mind sets are different depending on the situations at hand. If you were to have given Massa (for example) 10 points at the beginning of the season, there is a chance that the championship would have still come down to 1 point in the last race. Giving Massa the championship now would be as bad as crashing a car to win a race. Not fair for Hamilton, not particularly good for Massa and bad for everyone else (except the Massa fan boys).

 

Talk about refighting the last war.

 

If you look at the caption I have than you would know I am joking about the final result. Too many sensitive people on this forum. But what I do agree on is that race did cost Massa the championship and he would have won if Piquet incident did not happen.

 

Or Massa could have been taken out by Piquet when he was lapping him.

 

No. Rest assured Massa will NEVER be a WDC. Now you can move on with your lives.

 

Could he have won the WDC in 2008, yes, did he win the WDC in 2008, no.

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Or

Could he have won the WDC in 2008? Yes,
Would he have won the WDC in 2008? Maybe yes, maybe no.
Did he win the WDC in 2008? No.