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  1. joe sackey

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    #4078 roytoy2003, Sep 20, 2016
    I get amazed when people think 25K miles is a lot of miles for these Lambo V12 cars. I have said for years these are a solid car, IF maintained as they should be as well as driven and not left to sit around and rot away in a garage.

    Taking into consideration the "Heart" of all these V12 Lambos HAS been the same "Block" and mostly same internals for years....starting with the very first built to the LAST one that went into the 2010 LP670-4SV.

    The NEW 'Heart" for the V12 Aventador with its on to off running full 12 cylinders, to save fuel...just not sure how they will hold up over 100K miles....I guess time will tell.

    I just done think you can replicate the robust and solid running of the V12 engines through out the entire line of the V12 Lambo life, regardless of Carb or FI, they were and still are ONE HELL of a motor that has been consistently time tested and true.

    There are now several early generation Murcies with the "Real" V12 that have traveled well over the 110K miles mark...and several Diablos as well.
     
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    #4079 Jasperlambo, Sep 20, 2016
    There are nine different brochures for Quetzal/Motori Marini.
    The Quetzal brochure shown is also available in Italian language.
     
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    #4080 joe sackey, Sep 20, 2016
    I daresay the Motori Marini program helped promote the marque.
     
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    #4081 joe sackey, Sep 20, 2016
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    I believe this stunning 1989 image is by Robert W.

    A pair of stunning nearly-new Nero Tenebre Countachs, the one farthest from the camera still owned by Rick Lee as it was then.
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    #4082 joe sackey, Sep 20, 2016
    I have no idea about the reliability of Aventador, Murcielago or Diablo V12s, but just to keep things on-topic for this thread, I will say that the Countach QV engine is different from earlier Countach engines, in fact they are all different as Lamborghini made incremental manufacturing changes as production went on over the years.

    I have read where some are talking about "the last real V12" suggesting the Murcielago V12 is essentially the same as the one in the 350 GT or the Miura, but that's simply not correct.

    For example, its not true to say that the Miura P400 V12 is "the same" as the Countach QV V12, so its best to stay away from all the generalizations.

    My commentary about the reliability of the Countach QV engine is strictly in comparison to earlier variants of the Countach, all of which Ive personally owned and driven extensively.

    There is a reason we see so many Countach QVs with high miles (as opposed to earlier Countach variants), and I highlight this in this thread in part to show what I've known for a long time, to validate what factory insiders Sig. Balboni and Ing. Marmiroli have told me, and just for fun to dispel the stereotypical generalization that "nobody ever drives these cars".
     
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    #4083 roytoy2003, Sep 20, 2016
    I dis-agree with your generalization here.

    It appears that you are just "Focused" to the idea that the QV V12 was the best and from there it went down hill. I agree that as the production line, as well as R & D advanced, that the motors ALL became better, not just QV, not JUST Carb..BUT ALL Lamborghini Motors.

    As I said "the Heart"....the "Block", this has been the "corner stone" DNA of Lamborghini from the beginning till the end of the run, ending with 2010 LP670-4SV. I in no way was saying EVERY DETAIL of the engine from start to finish has been the same. I AM saying that its DNA has been the "Block and the Heart" from start to finish. There is NO question that the DNA/HEART has been improved as time has gone by....each variant has its favorite and each Lambo owner has their Favorite.

    My point was to bring to light that the DNA has been carried from start to finish...and if you are trying to say the best of all the Lambo V12 run came to a head with a QV motor/block...and from there never the same again...you are not correct.
     
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    #4084 joe sackey, Sep 20, 2016
    That's not what I am saying at all :rolleyes: not even close :)

    What I am saying is there is a reason we see so many Countach QVs with high miles (as opposed to earlier Countach variants), and I highlight this in this thread in part to show what I've known for a long time, to validate what factory insiders Sig. Balboni and Ing. Marmiroli have told me, and just for fun to dispel the stereotypical generalization that nobody ever drives these cars.

    That's what I am saying.

    As I also said: "My commentary about the reliability of the Countach QV engine is strictly in comparison to earlier variants of the Countach, all of which Ive personally owned and driven extensively".

    This is the Downdraft thread, and I haven't expounded upon the merits or otherwise of later models, as noted with my comment that "I have no idea about the reliability of Aventador, Murcielago or Diablo V12s" so I can't possibly be suggesting that "from there it went down hill", now can I? :eek: :D

    If on the other hand you are just posting here to say that other V12 engines are special too, I agree, and rest assured you are Preaching to the Choir :rolleyes: :)
     
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    Still looking for the chassis number of the Menta Verde RHD Downdraft, it was surely a one-off color that looked much better than this image suggests.
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    #4090 Spyder-Man, Sep 21, 2016
    That naughty 5000s gate crashed! :)
     
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    #4091 Robert W, Sep 21, 2016
    No, dear boy...steering wheel on the wrong side of the car... JLA12186 is right hand drive. This car is.....a leftie
     
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    #4092 Doc_K, Sep 21, 2016
    Fun fact. When I met up with Valentino a month ago, he was telling me that the Japanese specifically requested left hand drive cars from Lamborghini. I told him I thought that they would have preferred the cars to be like the ones they drove normally and Valentino said that it was exotic and special to them to have the car ordered just how it would be driven in Italy.
     
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    #4093 joe sackey, Sep 21, 2016
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    A Southpaw! Got it.

    For good measure here it is again (in case it jogs anyone's memory), in repose in front of a nice pile in the country, and you are right, its LHD.
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    #4094 joe sackey, Sep 21, 2016
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    HLA12065 and 5036 on the track, Countach Downdraft and Miura SV represent the most powerful production variants of their respective models.
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    The same theme again, Countach Downdraft (FLA12878) and Miura SV, showcasing the most potent iterations of their respective models.

    Yes I know this magazine cover has been posted multiple times, but its a classic, and will probably be posted again!
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    #4097 Countach88.5, Sep 22, 2016
    Nooooo!!!! lotta catching up to do, wonder if rockingham will let me do a few thousand laps?
     
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    #4098 joe sackey, Sep 22, 2016
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    Sometimes the smallest things will hold up progress or completion.

    'Snake-Eye' Security bolts sourced, thank you John!

    I must say the network of enthusiasts & owners is an invaluable resource.
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    You are so welcome!

    Glad to see them going to an INCREDIBLE car.
     
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