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  1. joe sackey

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    #4376 joe sackey, Nov 10, 2009
    Another 3 final nails in the "its not a factory conversion" coffin are:

    The type of mirrors bestowed upon 1120022. The factory never used these upon a Countach that was built or modified by them.

    The engine covers (bonnets) received a shield (roof) on each of the 4 recessed areas of bonnet, as part of the conversion of the factory cars. Its missing on 1120022. Why? Because the factory did not convert this car.

    The interior of 1120022 was something to behold (I will search for and produce some pics soon). It had some sort of star wars keypad in the center of the steering wheel at one point, and some other touches that all shouted 'non-factory'. Then there are those chopped-off seats....
     
  2. joe sackey

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    #4378 Olivier NAMECHE, Nov 10, 2009
    ...75 means it was registered in Paris
     
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  6. NSXER

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    #4381 NSXER, Nov 10, 2009
    Japan would be my guess!

    Brian
     
  7. Lel

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    #4382 Lel, Nov 10, 2009
    Joe!

    This matter seems to be very important to you.

    I'm not willing to say that a car isn't build by the factory because of a non original mirror or steering wheel. A lot of cars and even the blue Wolf-Countach would then shout 'non-factory'.

    You may be right that the factory didn't do the conversion on 1120022 but everything says factory to me. I am the one who dismantled the 'S-kit' and could see that the conversion was most beautifully made. The car had had an earlier accident and the right side front wing, door and most all of the rear wing was exchanged and the 'S'-conversion took place. The bodywork was most professionally made with copper rivets on the right places. The wings were cut at the wheelarches to suit the 'S-kit' aluminum flares. I still believe that the work was made by someone who used to work with Countaches, probably at the Lamborghini factory. The paintwork was beautiful in termo-acrylic like other Countaches from factory. I also believe that the seats were redone at the same moment. If Wolf could get the factory to do something extra I suppose that anyone with money could get what he wanted.

    And about mirrors, steering wheels, bent exhaust pipes, three layers of black paint and so on are all things that the car did get during it's 24 hard years before I bought it.

    And one more thing Joe, please tell me the difference between a LP400 and the following cars rear suspension. Why are the track wider on the younger cars? It might be the length of the upper and lower connecting tubes, it might be the wheel hubs and it might be the thickness of the brake disc? Or just the wheels? I don't know.

    Regards

    Lars-Erik
     
  8. NSXER

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    #4383 NSXER, Nov 10, 2009
    Wow! That looks fantastic....very nice work.

    Brian
     
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    #4384 Lel, Nov 10, 2009
     
  10. 2NA

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  11. joe sackey

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    #4386 joe sackey, Nov 10, 2009
    Fantastic.
     
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    #4387 joe sackey, Nov 10, 2009
    2NA: My point was price comparison in the SAME year. A genuine Wolf car with factory proof being offered for 400k Eu, and a non-factory car offered for 50k Eu. Speaks for itself.
     
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    #4388 joe sackey, Nov 10, 2009
    Yes, as it should be when Lamborghini history is being stated as fact based on guesswork! I have made my case. The cars wasn't converted by the factory. If you are asserting it was, show me proof and I will be happy to change my stance. I am 100% sure if it was a factory Wolf car, it would have cost many times more than it did when it was being offered around, and there would have been factory paperwork accompanying the car.
     
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    #4391 Peter K., Nov 10, 2009
    We have problem here. Or at least I have a gripe. If that was my motor...about to go in my car.....once it's in, I won't drive it. Looks too good to drive. :)
     
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    #4392 Pantera, Nov 10, 2009

    donno I can tell you that there are more out there now than lamborghini originally made :D.
     
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    #4393 2NA, Nov 10, 2009
    Point well taken.
     
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    #4394 raymondQV, Nov 10, 2009
    One glance at the front fender and you can see that 1120022 has a different flare which is definitely not the one the wolf cars got.
     
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    #4395 LP400S, Nov 10, 2009
    Tony,
    It looks fantastic!!! Great job.
     
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    #4397 Lel, Nov 11, 2009
    Joe!

    The c ar you show us on this picture has the newer plastic extensions. Can't you see?

    L-E
     
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    #4398 Lel, Nov 11, 2009
    Joe!

    Guesswork! And you can say to 100% that 1120022 wasn't converted by the factory. Guesswork?

    And more. As I understand it, a small quantity of LP400 owners came back to the factory to have their car modernized, therefore the factory had this 'S-kit' to convert them. If they called them all 'Wolf-cars' or that's a word in the 'Sackey-library' for all aluminum extensioned cars I don't know.

    Anyhow it is interesting to know how many kits were made, how many of them were fitted at the factory and which are these cars? Which still remains?

    Regards

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    #4399 Lel, Nov 11, 2009

    Joe!

    How did they make the track wider on LP400:s and the later cars?

    Lars-Erik
     
  25. M.B.

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    #4400 M.B., Nov 11, 2009
    who ever did the conversion, they mounted the S upsidedown, would the factory do that?
     
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