Countach, the ultimate supercar

and given your experience with almost all mid engine lamborghini cars, i will take your opinion as a very valuable one!

p.s. i am sure it is a great driver but still i cannot get completely over its look ... in grigio it looks very nice i have to say

 

Marcel , my friend

that is not fair!
this is by far the best looking anniversary EVER (no kidding!)

does it have my ANSA on?

 

sorry but i had to do this, see, you already like the anniversario better, now i have to work on Raymond he still thinks his QV is better

By the way, this car had the Ansa on it when i bought it, your Ansa is still unused.

 

good luck convincing Raymond!

ok, if i would come across a guy in need of one ANSA i will e mail you

take care Marcel!

 

Here are my Bravos on my Urraco. For more info on this, check out the urraco thread.
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I have let a friend of mine drive my QV a few times. he last had an anniversary and now has a murci and a diablo VT roadster. He says the QV is nicer to drive than the anniversary for various reasons; more room due to seats; generally less claustrophobic; lighter clutch ( mine is a new one) handles better and is a lot faster! I appreciate the cars vary significantly from one to the other in performance, but his views of using the car were interesting. I have never driven an anniversary although sat in quite a few static!
As Joe will point out again , correctly, i am a QV owner! lol
Paul
xx

 

The QV and 25th are equally fast, the 25th is 100 Kilo heavier, this was compensated by another shorter gear ratio from 12535 on 35/34 instead of 29/28 Tav 19 and 20 of the 25th parts manual.

Whenever you do a side by side comparison, the general tuning is more important, a sport exhaust will help a lot since the restriction of the original unit begins at about 5000rpm.

100 Kilo less weight makes the QV feel lighter, corners easier and is feelable on the brake, from my experience all countachs are different in power, but on the brakes the difference is even bigger.

 

agree, on the seats from the QV you are sitting "deeper" in the car, the powerseats in the anniversario were a wrong move like the power windows... all BS..Chrysler.. The clutch is lighter from a QV but ones you are used to it its not a problem. I owned a 2 QV's and 2 anniversario's but the QV's where not faster, (all DD cars) for me the anniversario is the better one. I can amagine in the US the anniversario isn't really populair because with the US bumpers the car looks like a joke :-( i can't speak about the FI cars, never drove one. Is there a difference between FI QV and FI anniversario?? Has the Anniversario another FI system? Okay Raymond, better seats and lighter clutch

 

"Brakes" from a countach... something from the 70's!... interesting info, i didn't know the gear ratio was different. QV, anniversario, both great cars, what you already said, personal taste.

 

Id give him 88k tops for it.

 

so is this!
Can you tell Joe? !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6bujIl3dAc&feature=email

Paul

 

Love the comments on the video... shifts sound good to me... no need to hurry through the gates.

 

Re: Lowering a "highbody" Countach

This is a question asked a few times in the Countach Reunion thread, that never seemed to get a satisfactory answer. If it did and I missed it, my apologies.

Recently, someone here (I can't recall who) mentioned that the Anniversary Countach is lower when compared to the other "highbody" cars. After looking at some pics, it certainly does appear lower.

I had always thought this lower appearance was a result of the way the Anniversary skirts, spats and spoiler look, but I have changed my opinion on this.

It has to be changes to at least the front suspension, and likely the rear as well, since the Anniversary doesn't seem to exhibit the tail-high/hot rod look of cars that are only lowered in the front.

So, how is this lower stance achieved? Can it be replicated on the rest of the "highbody" cars? IMO, they would all look A LOT better with the Anniversary stance...

 

I'm not sure about the Anniversary cars being "lower" I still think it's the look and placement of the wheel flares.

Maybe some of the cars you're looking at may have been lowered?

Regarding lowering a "highbody car" anything can be done, I have done it myself but lowering the car that far does change the drivability.

The "lowbody" vs "highbody" cars have a lot of differences other than the spring height.

Tony
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There's no free lunch. The suspension geometry is a bit different on the later cars as well as the body itself is just a little taller (discussed at length way back in this thread). Lowering the car without screwing up the handling is possible but more complicated than shortening the springs.

Springs aren't precision devices and do tend to lose some tension over time. Old cars will sit lower than newer cars and all these cars are at least 20 years old. It is possible that the "look" you are admiring is a car with sagging springs.

 

Thanks guys for the quick replies. This has been banging around my noodle for a few days now.

I definitely defer to you both on this, being as you are experts in the field and, as I said before, I always thought exactly as you guys have posted.

That said it is pictures like this one below, posted by Mr. Sackey in the Countach Reunion thread (in no way discussing the comparative heights of the cars involved), that have brought me to ask. However, I am willing to put this down to optical illusion, due to the angles involved ie; the cars, the ground and the placement of the camera... those Annies do look lower though...
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Good point with the sagging springs. I talked to a guy that wanted a lowbody and he was interested in my car, when I sent him this picture he responded that it was not a real lowbody because the rear flare was not even with the top of the rim. I tried to explain that sagging springs (on whatever car he was comparing mine) was most likely the reason for it being lower.
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I am noticing the apparent large difference between the volume of fender visible between the front spats and the fender top of the black car versus the Anniversary next to it...

Is there any difference between the suspension of say a QV LP5000 and an Anniversary? If not, it must be all the Anniversary body mods...

 

One of my all time favorite Countach photos. Could we please have some more pics of your fantastically gorgeous car?

 

Thanks, but I don't have any recent photos.

 

In fact, the front springs on mine were both broken when I bought it and I know of 2 other lowbodies that had this same broken spring problem.