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"Coveted" Cavallino issues?

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  1. 360gtracer

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    So I'm slowly acquiring old Cavallino issues to complete my collection (but not willing to spend a lot on any - yet).

    One seller described Cavallino #32 as a "coveted" issue. Anyone know if this is a fair description? What makes one issue more "coveted" than another?

    Thanks.

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  2. Julius H.

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    Also missing 32 issue...

    There were issued infos about 365GTC in 32.

    Maybe that one seller meaned that is covet because he has(had 365GTC or...??
     
  3. BigTex

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    A recent full set was broken on eBay, any of the "first 20" will take $30 to $40 each to land, in those conditions.

    I once saw an original #1,2, and 3 auction for $650USD.

    So, while I don't 'covet' any of them, the very first editions numbers are rare because of age, lack of circulation numbers, and the fact that, outside of "full sets" you just don't get many chances to buy, at any price....

    One user posted here he snagged the first twenty five issues where his local public library was tossing them out, on the "Free Take One" table....

    That was a rare day.......
     
  4. Julius H.

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    I want also ,,free take one" for some early ferrari yearbooks :D

    lucky guy that one with first 25 CVLs :)
     
  5. BigTex

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    He said he was a Porsche guy, actually...but the photo work and paper drew him to examine and pick them up. Then he posted here, for info!
     
  6. BigTex

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    For a long time #11 was my oldest, then jumping to #18.

    I recently got, IIRC #7, 8 from the ebay sale.

    The earlier the issue the fewer the pages, it takes about 30 minutes to look thru one unless it has a special article of interest.
     
  7. Julius H.

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    great :)

    i think he will never regret his take from library for free.
     
  8. Julius H.

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    Whole collection of Cavallinos and Ferrari yearbooks(except early alfa years) is my dream to collect them all.

    Now i am focusing on yearbooks...
     
  9. Bryanp

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    Surely #171!!! :)
     
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  10. BigTex

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    #171, definately coveted.......:D :D :D

    I need to do a fresh inventory, as I have gaps in the later issues.
     
  11. Julius H.

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    thumbs up
     
  12. rob lay

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    #2 is the rarest I believe.
     
  13. Julius H.

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    should be interesting topic to know how many each issues been printed by Cavallino...does anybody know escpecially first 10 issues?
     
  14. jm2

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    i have the complete set from #1,original,still in the original mailer up to the current issue #194,along with the red storage boxes.all in as new condition.....yes i'm OCD :)

    if anyone is serious,i'm always open for offers ,i haven't tried to sell them,but maybe it's time they went to a "new" home

    getting married soon.....you probably know the drill

    you can PM me or email me
     
  15. BigTex

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    Complete sets are $2,500 to $4k, and the red boxes are also worth some money (about the same as new, if good condition).

    I think Rob's right about #2, there are reprints of #1, I'd guess publishing numbers are pretty low for the first ten or twenty issues...
     
  16. jm2

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    thanks!
    didn't know what the "current market rate" was,although a $1500 spread isn't chump change :)
    i knew about the reprints for #1,which made #2 all the more valuable I guess
    maybe just keep them
     
  17. rob lay

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    no, they ran more originals on #1 to give away free issues and promote magazine, I think #2 was just cut back to subscribers and newsstands. My educated guess #2 had less issues than any other. When I use to follow the market on them and people actually auctioned stuff on ebay it seems #2 always went for the most. Forza #2 is tough too.
     
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    cool...have the Forzas as well
     
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    The original poster asked about coveted issues of Cavallino and there are two things that are important. First is which Ferrari models are featured in an issue. Certain cars are of greater interest and so those issues were in greater demand. Second the publisher of Cavallino maintains a list of available back issues with prices for each copy. This is a good guide to 'coveted issues' with prices listed. Some issues are more expensive than others and not just because of the date published. Then there were a few are 'sold out' with none available which increases the value when they do come up for sale elsewhere. Also condition plays a role in the price. The covers will scuff easily and there are some real 'dogs' out there for sale...
    Also something that is seldom mentioned was problems early subscribers had receiving the Cavallino magazines. They were mailed from Europe sometimes and didn't arrive making a complete set difficult to attain in the beginning.
    I would agree that issue #2 is the most difficult to find.
    For all it's detractors ebay has proven a good source for back issues but as noted condition can be poor. Some sellers are very 'generous' in their description of an issue they are selling!
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  20. Bryanp

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    Not too long ago, there was a list published by Cavallino w/ the prices for back issues and whether they were available at all. It struck me that, amongst the issues that you could buy, that there were odd price spikes w/ certain issues; those must be the "coveted" ones. I'll see if I can find that list - I think it came w/ one of the magazines in the last 6 months or so.

    And the red boxes are damned expensive, but look good on the shelf.
     
  21. jtremlett

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    It is almost always the case that issue #2 of any magazine is the rarest and most valuable for exactly that reason. Of course, Cavallino also did a reprint of issue #1 which will have made a difference.

    FWIW the red holders are not currently available from Cavallino and they don't know when they'll get more in as I enquired only a couple of weeks ago.

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  22. 360C

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    As I recall the 2nd is the rarest as the warehouse burnt down where a lot of them were stored. They made a lot of the 1st edition as many were given away for free at the time as previously mentioned. The reprints of edition 1 have "reprint" clearly printed across one corner, so it's not hard to pick them.

    I have a full set of Cavallino and Forza. I started collecting Cavallino some time around the release of edition 10.
     
  23. Julius H.

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    I didnt know that most of 2 issue been burnted..interesting.
     
  24. BigTex

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    That was the case with FORZA, but it was a flood effecting the publishing warehouse in Novato California (just north of San Francisco..) It wiped out all "back issue" inventory.

    Cavallino is published from Boca Raton, Florida...it's all safe there, except for Hurricane Season. :D :D :D

    All other comments on rarity apply.

    It DOES have to do with the models featured, IMO, I know one I am missing is the P4 issue, which caused all the controversy between Napolis and the publisher when they rejected his letters of correction. Normally the Letters Section containing correction of fact are readily accepted and discussed.

    The publisher's wife is a member here, LogIn is 'Alecia'....Alecia Barnes.
    She shows up in Florida section, often with info on the yearly Festival at the Breakers...
    She's a nice lady.
     
  25. moriaan1

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    still looking for a reasonably priced nr. 2 missed one at $60 last month...

    Buying is easy, buying it at a good price is the challenge! (and funbit of collecting)

    Never paid the "premium" prices over the years.

    Hans
     

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