Anyone know what the 288 went for at coys on oct 20? no info on their website.
It went for 207 GBP at the hammer, and after fees thats 235 GBP. Conversion = $414k US at the hammer, $470k US including fees. The info will be posted there next week. Joe www.joesackey.com
Dear Comrade Joe Sackey, Isn't this substantially less than expected for one of these motor cars? With kind regards, 512 Tea Are
Dear Comrade 512 Tea Are: The problem is that Coys chose to hold their auction at Ascot rather than in London and it is my understanding that several bidders got lost on their way there. The other half happened to be in the bathroom at the time the car went up for bidding and one lucky bugger scooped it up at a very low price Yes that price was low. 2 cars have changed hands in excess of $600k recently, and 2 others (with VERY low mileage) are available privately (unadvertised) right now at $750k and $775k. Another modified car advertised asks $625k. Joe www.joesackey.com
I bet there are some for whom no AC or power windows has minimalist appeal in the sense that its a car without the bells-and-whistles of other cars. In fact, I think Albert Obrist (owner of innumerable Competition Ferraris dating from the 60s to the 90s) ordered it that way intentionally, asking for AC and PW to be deleted. Additionally, a quick scan reveals that just 31 of the 273 production cars had the "no AC no PW" combination, rare birds indeed appealing to those who like raw & lightweight Supercars. But youre right, the market speaks for itself, so 'no AC no PW' GTOs will probably bring less as most people seem to want the bells-and-whistles.. hey at least it had the orange inlays. Joe www.joesackey.com
That is a good price though for the new owner. Joe do happen to have the number of GTOs produced with both AC and PW?
I am getting the same hammer price, but I think it is only 13% commission. So it would be a 231,650 ending or $478,844 US dollars with today's conversion.
The miles on the clock were disclosed as not being real and Im sure it hurt the value and it ended up at $478k. There is a private deal on the table happening at $775k. Of course that car has a genuine 1,200 miles. Joe www.joesackey.com
actually, they had docs to show that the first speedo broke and was replaced at 7k kms, so mileage was 8000 kms. fact is joe, these cars are 450 -500k. if you know a deal at 775 for one, then that is an anomaly. the maranello sale at 600k was a protoype, not typical. As a boxer owner, I appreciate hyping prices car up, but when I'm looking for a car, real world prices are key. people can ASK whatever they want...
nope, 10 percent buyers commision, I have the bidder form in front of me. makes it 225 gbp, about 450 USD.
Well we cant argue with the market as I always say. And yes sales that some view as anonalies do occur too. Did you buy the RM car? Joe www.joesackey.com
The car is sold to a floor bidder So only 10% commission. That makes incl commission and taxes. 229087.50 sterling pounds €329.275,- Euro $ 476500.00 US dollars
Thanks Toto for accuracy's sake (say Hi to Marcel B for me!). $476,000 plus 17.5% sales tax = $559,800 US. Not bad. Joe www.joesackey.com
Sure thing. In fact the car is $775k before fees, and taxes. A small range such as you (& msgsobe) have suggested does not cover all cars within the model. The car Im speaking of is PERFECT, like new, AC & PW, orange inserts, 750 miles.... I know of another car that will need TLC that can be had for $375k, and I would say a car like Bill C's 500-mile long-term ownership car would solicit bids even in excess of the $775k car (not that it is likely to ever come to the market). $375k to $800k is the total range in reality. Then it depends on which end of the spectrum the car you are talking about exists in. Same thing with F40s: I know of one that sold at $375k not long ago (a little 'tired' with some miles), and on the other end of the scale Silicon Valley sold the perfect 405-mile car for $735k. It is rather naive in the extreme to simply stamp all GTO's as $450-500K cars. Also lets remember the Coys car had a fair few miles and was without AC or PW and many simply passed to wait for an AC, PW car. Additionally, the RM car has the all-black interior (your typical GTO buyer seems to prefer the "whole enchilada": orange inserts, AC & PW), and it has quite a "story" as it relates to the mileage it shows, which was declared as not the real mileage (for whatever reason, broken odometer or otherwise!). Neither car could have been expected to bring top value, so although I agree they went for what they were worth, they are not neccesarily the most valuable GTOs. If you are going to simply drive & enjoy, I say go for one in the lower end of the scale. If you are a collector who wishes a car that will be really valuable in future and who enjoys looking at it and showing it, then the upper end of the scale will appeal. Each to his own... Joe www.joesackey.com
LOL. Since the beginning of the classic car market, people looking for a particular car (potential buyers) try to hype prices down, and those who own them (potential sellers) try to hype prices up. Generally speaking. I believe its a thing called human nature Joe www.jmssackey.com