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Crappy Replicas thread

Discussion in 'General Automotive Discussion' started by ninyo, May 23, 2004.

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  1. Fan512bbi

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  2. Bradley

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    It's my kind of kit car!

    It doesn't appear to be trying to replicate anything else; it is what it is, and it actually looks kind of cool. (Not as nice as a real Ferrari or Lambo, of course, but kit cars hardly ever do.)

    Also, I give points for not having any badges - at least, that's the way it appears in the photo.

    All kit cars should be like this one: Unique, not trying to appear like anything else, and no badges!
     
  3. Fan512bbi

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    After reading you're post I had a closer look, I agree 100% with what you say and just noticed that the wheel is in the middle (MCF1) a unique car?
     
  4. martx-5

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  5. NeuroBeaker

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    That's cool! :cool:

    Central driving position like a McLaren F1, and some styling influences that seem drawn from the Lamborghini Murcielago and the Ferrari Enzo.

    I wonder if it drives as well as it looks. :)

    All the best,
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  6. Bradley

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    Well, yes. That's always the ultimate question.
     
  7. VF1Skullangel

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    The Fiero based 288 GTO's were horrific.

    There's a reason why they never hit the market full force because many people knew they looked fake. Kind of like the shortwheel based Countach and Testarossas. Now adays the best bet is take a beat up real 308 and buy the 288 panels and swap in a 3800 motor.

    I believe the purpose of the Mera was to boost sales of the base Fiero's and to get people into showrooms which failed greatly but oh well the car was built in less numbers than a real Enzo so it should be worth something in the future. :)
     
  8. VF1Skullangel

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    That my friend is the Predator.

    Originally built by Top Gun inc who used to do Lamborghini Replica's Audi came around and shut them down so he took it apon himself to do his own design. Funny how that came out years before the real Revention Roadster. Based out in New York it was in direction Competition with another kitcar called the Vendetta Roadster build in southern California.

    Booth great kits.

    I know a stock GT could take out a 308 with a good driver except in topspeed. I doubt the 308 is 150 though id say 145 at best. The Fiero's topspeed is more like 112mph than 135 :D But they are very quick off the line.
     
  9. Bradley

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    Okay, but most other Fiero-based replicas - especially Ferrari replicas - were also horrific.




    Those don't look quite like real GTOs either, and I personally have serious objections to turning a genuine Ferrari into a kit car.




    The fewest made does not always equal higher value. If it did, my 308 GTB/i would be worth more than a 288 GTO.
     
  10. Darolls

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    Both of you are way off base.

    The Mera was the car other 308 replicas were based on. I owned one and many thought the Mera was a real Ferrari and the real Ferraris were fake!
     
  11. Bradley

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    I don't see where I'm "off base" at all.

    I met a man with a Mera a couple of weeks ago. (Detailed account in Denver Ferrari Spotters thread.) The car fooled me for about 45 seconds, literally - but I am admitting that it did fool me - before I got out of my car and looked at it more closely.

    It didn't look nearly as bad as a lot of fake Ferraris, but "many" people must not have known much about the genuine 308s.

    I have also heard that all 308 fakes built on Fieros were modeled after the Mera. I don't know whether that is true, but if it is - so what?
     
  12. Darolls

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    Just meant as info,nothing more.
     
  13. Reece

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    Amazing that a thread started by a poster with 27 posts. last posting
    in 2004, still has a thread going here!

    Wowsers!!!


    :)

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  15. PAP 348

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    I reckon, it's crazy. :D:D

    Our "Aussie Ferrari Spotters thread" was started by an Pommy guy (v15ben) back August 2005.

    v15Ben only has 1300 posts since joining in mid 2004 and is now based in South Korea it seems. :)

    Our spotters thread is the biggest thread in the Aussie section with 20515 posts. :)
     
  16. VF1Skullangel

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    Not true. There's some nice Fiero based kits that are worth awhile.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnvSlxqRcIo[/ame] I bet this will get more heads turning than your 308 would.

    This one is very nice

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w4SuHi61u8[/ame]

    I could find many more.

    The problem is finding the right kit and doing it right which is what most people won't do.

    They just want a bolt on kit and you can't get a Ferrari acurate enough to look like a true Ferrari which is why there was many short based kits so id agree with you.



    Your not turning it into a kitcar. Its putting a body kit on a real Ferrari. Just like putting a ZR1 body kit on a base C6. The paper work stays the same :)


    I can't say if it will command an enzo price tag but I will say that one day those Meras will cost more than an original showroom conditioned Fiero GT.
     
  17. mseals

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    uhh....

    no. it won't.
     
  18. jeffdavison

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    uh... still crap. nicely executed crap, but still crap.

    JD

     
  19. Bradley

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    Sure, maybe there are some that are worthwhile. Please note that I said most Fiero based kits, not all Fiero based kits, are horrific.

    I don't think so.

    If you say so.

    And that is exactly why I have found that most Fiero based kits are horrific.

    Yep, we actually agree. No argument here.





    What is a kit car if it's not a genuine car re-bodied to look like something else? Take a Fiero, bolt on a "Ferrari" lookalike (or not) body, and you have a kit car. Take a 308, bolt on a GTO lookalike body, and you have a kit car.

    I still object to making a genuine 308 look like a GTO. For one, they usually don't look right, and a genuine 308 or 328 is ruined in the process.


    Maybe so, but value depends more on how many people actually want one than on how many were built. Rarity alone does not equal a higher price tag.
     
  20. VF1Skullangel

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    Wanna bet?


    Why are you being an elitist?

    I think its very respectable and not poorly assembled.
     
  21. VF1Skullangel

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    Opps

    Some kits can. This is one of those.
     
  22. Bradley

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    Well, just keep on thinking that. It's a stupid argument - what are we going to do, get out my 308 and one of those. . . things. . . and then get someone on the street to count how many heads turn?

    If you wanted to prove how "good" a Fiero-based kit car can look, well, keep looking. That thing does not resemble a Ferrari in the least. It's not a Berlinetta Boxer, and shouldn't be called such or badged as such.

    It may be "respectable" as a well-made and powerful kit car, but anyone who looks at it will immediately identify it as such.

    I don't think there's anything wrong with it as a kit car. As to whether it will "turn more heads," I don't know when that became the measure of how good a car is. It's a stupid argument ("Yes it will" / "No, it won't"), and impossible to prove.

    In all my life, I've only seen, in person, two Fiero-based Ferrari replicas that actually looked anything at all like a Ferrari. And even if they look good, which the vast majority don't, they should not be called or badged as Ferraris. And if you wanted to impress me with a Fiero based replica that isn't horrific looking, that isn't it.
     
  23. Bxtech

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    $50K for this???

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  24. VF1Skullangel

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    It could be more embarrassing for you since your 308 is only faster than a stock Fiero in Top Speed and this kit sheds the Fiero's curb weight by 300lbs or so depending on the motor used it could very well surpass the performance of an original for pennies on the dollar. But there's no real way in "Testing" both cars really. Not even a 1/4mile or roadcourse could determine that right?




    I don't see how this is doesn't resemble a 512Boxer since they look very identical to each other. Its not like a non stretched Lamborghini or a "Testavette" kit being a Corvette based TR. For being a non stretched kit its probably one of the better ones out there sure there's not going to be the little small details but its good enough for most folks to be pleased with it.

    There really is no legit way to match up a kitcar against a real exotic unless you have a car that's got identical performance, same year exc...exc... and thats hard enough to do as is. I think that Show "KIt an Autobody experience" had an "Okay" match up with their original 94 Diablo against a Fiero based kit that looked almost the same but there's no way that 2.8 with 100hp was beating out a V12 with probably 385hp. However in looks if it wasn't for that stupid SV scoop on the back the kit builder used on his car and the later VT spoiler they would have been very much the same overall.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq9AeDP80tk[/ame]

    It's little details like that in which will give away that its a kit. Also the rims I noticed were off a Roadster model which was another give away.

    I agree. Most kits will never be completed and the few that are completed most will look like crap and a handful will be decent while fewer like 1% of the popluation will reach damn near OEM status with their builds.

    In most cases these guys could have picked up the OEM car BUT to maintain an OEM car I'm sure will cost more than the kit itself.
     

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