Crappy Replicas thread

in a nutshell...

if it's a bodykit on an otherwise heap of crap, it's a heap of crap with lipstick.

if it's a ground-up nut-n-bolt professional build of an otherwise unattainable car, it's ok.

ps. 'unattainable' does not mean "i've only got $50k to spend", it means i just plain and simple can't get one!

 

I use a somewhat different definition trying to use a finer comb: I split it into 4 parts: Looks, performance, engine and papers

So a well done replica gets 25% for looks. A Fiero with a TR kit wouldn't get the next 25% for performance. If the car has the right engine (e.g. a Cobra replica with the right motor) it gets another 25% and finally e.g. a Ferrari rebody would also have the paperwork to legitimize the car as a Ferrari.

Obviously each of this categories could be subdivided even finer, but to me that roughly separates the a poseur (e.g. Fiero with bodykit) from a more serious attempt (GT40 replica) that can actually deliver a lot of the goods.

 

a fiero ANYTHING gets MINUS 50% to start with. it's not worth the kerosene to set it on fire but i'd chip in. as i said...

i've been out with some great exotic cars, and i absolutely LOVE the GT40 replica a mate has. there's no chance he could buy such a car, but the car he's built is so impeccably astounding.... it's gives you spine-tingles.

bunch of pics of the GT40 here: http://enemyoftime.com/yapig/view.php?gid=7

cobra's are sort-of dime-a-dozen. so copied that i'll never look at one as original... hell, my old man built one in the 80's!!!

Ferrari rebodies.... hmm enough people have talked about how they feel about killing one F-car to re-create another...

 

I'm no Fiero fan, but have a tad more respect for them since a race tuned one beat my arse on the track while I was in my 308. Especially when equipped with the V8 Northstar engine they can get darn fast.

In general agreed on the Cobra statement, but Superformance has raised the bar. Not just for the Cobras.

I know it gets many people's blood boiling but I have seen amazing rebodies. And not "just" from backyard builders, but in the hands of serious collectors. Don't just think 250 GTE to GTO. There are many more around, e.g. the Linder LM, 512LM, Daytona racecars, 308 to 288 GTO, original TR replicas you name it.

 

Ignore my last post:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pontiac-Fiero-NO-RESERVE-1985-Ferrari-Testarossa-Replica-Low-Miles_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6419QQitemZ4615965819QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Doesn't have the looks, nor the performance, nor the engine or papers. 0%, in other words a real contender for this thread's title.

 

lamborghini didn't break the original molds for the miura?...I heard Ferrari broke the mold for the F50 and F40...so it cannot be replicated (for example- IFD, D&R, CRP, has molds of the lamborghini replica.)

 

Lambo has had many more owners over time than Ferrari and each of them had more to worry about I guess, like keeping the company solvent...well they didn't do to good of a job of that either! If anything, the owners of Lambo should have cracked down on the Countach and Diablo, but that is now a woulda could shoulda lament. By letting it go for so long and with the terms of agreements when the company changed hands, who knows where the rights, copyrights and trade dress went. Now Ferrari has had just one ownership and are very aggresive to protect their image. So many copies of older Lambos have been and are being made I think that the returns that VW seeks won't be worth the expense to stop the replicas of cars designed under former ownership...What VAG should do is go balls out to protect the Murci, Guiardo and any newer model from trade dress infringment.

The maybe at the most 30 Miura replicas aren't going to "confuse the marketplace" and cause a devaluation of the original. Same for the Countach and Diablos replicas...they ain't goin to hurt VW in anyway shape or form.

Ferrari has a right to be proud and protective, VW has a right to protect themselves as well, but the history of their acquired brand has lots of loop holes. Chrysler should have gone after the makers when they possesed the brand, they had the big gun lawyers and deep pockets to do so but chose not to. Carol Shelby went after the Cobra replicas and was able to have most of them take the Shelby trademarks off and came to agreements with other to license out his approval.

I'd really like to see a finished Miura!

JD

 

yeah...that Triangle G Murcielago is one ugly beast!...nobody can be fooled by that!...at least the Diablo had style.

 

Theres only one thing wrong with that first pic, and thats those concrete blocks in the background aren't sitting on top of the car!!

 

Err, Flash Gordons Car?

 

Wow, are you saying that a Miami Vice Kit car started the 80's price boom

 

Looks like the ultra, ultra-rare Bricklin testicleroaster.

 

Can someone post this yellow Diablo for me.....
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rodrieguz/album?.dir=7deb&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%25

 

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Has this one been posted yet?
Carrera GT:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Replica-Kit-Makes-Porsche-Carrera-Porsche-Carrera-GT-Project_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ7251QQitemZ4627837578QQrdZ1
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Ooh, I can almost here that 4 cyl carrera Gt strain!

 

The only Countach replicas I've seen had VW beetle engines in anyway, so VW win both ways!

 

You'd be surprised how well Lambo replicas are doing in the US these days: There are racing shops building them on racing chassis with racing suspension and all. Throw in a big hp and torque engine and the body on top and you have something that goes really fast really well.

In general the kitcar market in the US is turning from being based on donor chassis of soso cars to purposely built chassis ready made for performance.

On a related note: Does anybody know whether the Lambo being blown up in Mission Impossible 3 is a replica or not? They had the budget to use a real one and Tom Cruise acknowledged in an interview it was real.

 

I heard a rumour that the maker of a rebodied Ferrari (400/412?) was prosecuted recently after he offered it for sale at Coys or one of the other auction houses. The story I heard was that he had accurately described it but he was charged with fraud. Has anyone got a pointer to the real story?

 

Welcome to FChat!

You're in the wrong forum for this question since you're talking about a real Ferrari chassis.

 

"You see the problem is that you don't know the history of blowing up a Lambo, I do!"

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-ROLLS-ROYCE-PHANTOM-SUV-REPLICA_W0QQitemZ4637068472QQcategoryZ6156QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

While it doesnt look all that bad, it might just go down in history as the most pointless replica ever.

 

http://www.kraftwerkz.net/images.htm

How about this one for a replica.