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Crashed F12

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  1. starboy444

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  2. Noblesse Oblige

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    We do get to see every one of these. The negative exposure alone should be an incentive for drivers to be a little cautious in an unfamiliar car unless they are very experienced.
     
  3. TheMayor

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    How freakin stupid can you be on many levels at the same time?

    where's the caption: "Good tires" Bob mused as he causally lit his cigarette "but certainly not great tires". :)
     
  4. absent

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    All the electronic nannies,all the technology preventing stuff like that from happening and yet there is always some ass able to overcome all this help and wreck the thing.
    Idiot must have thought he was on Vettel level and must have turned the dial all the way up.....
    Only explanation,regardless if he was cut off or not......
     
  5. 4th_gear

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    Looks like the car came off a country road where the shoulders of the road falls off quite sharply.

    The F12 steering has 2 turns lock-to-lock. Add neutral steering and high speeds and you create the potential for the car to grab the shoulder when you overtake other vehicles quickly and then under/over-correct your course on a narrow road. The driver should have given himself at least a 1,000 km orientation period before showing off to anyone. These cars simply do not respond or steer like normal cars do.

    Maybe Ferrari should offer an "orientation guide" for 1st-time Fcar owners, in lieu of a driving course. ;) It would probably avoid a few of these embarrassing and potentially life-threatening stunts. If this were a test drive of a showroom car, the fault also lies with the salesman who let it happen.
     
  6. starboy444

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    Thats a fantastic idea. With the amount of Ferrari's flying off showroom floors these days, it wouldn't be too much to have a mandatory "track day" for owners.

    700hp is no joke... these are not your 3200 LB, 390 horsepower 3*8 cars any more.
     
  7. ferrarisun

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    That's the kind of idiot that runs up insurance premiums for everyone driving an exotic car. Check WreckedExotics.com , for many more.
     
  8. Maximus

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    The posted video is the demo F12 of one of the Ferrari dealers in The Netherlands. Nor the driver nor the passenger was hurt in the accident. Currently the roads in The Netherlands can be cold, around +/- 5 a 6 degrees celcius. This can easily cause the F12 with it's power to generate wheelspin in lower gears with the manettino set to wet.

    It's good to know that the driver and passenger are OK, the material damage can and will be replaced.
     
  9. sindo308qv

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    Well, no at least ferrari can get some data on how the car did in the crash.
     
  10. luvair

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    Very sad to see. Positive the FF is built so well that the passengers are OK. Can happen so fast on cold, guess summer tires, too much HP, and over correcting too quickly to save the skid.
     
  11. 134282

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    Can anyone run those Netherland plates to determine the VIN?
     
  12. Maximus

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    The VIN can't be traced via the plates since the plates are swapped between cars. I will try to chase the VIN.
     
  13. Stevenb

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    Glad everyone is ok but it just tears my heart apart when i see something like that...
     
  14. 134282

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    Plates don't remain with the car after a sale in The NL?

    If you can track down the VIN, I would be eternally grateful!
     
  15. London John

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    It's just a car. The passengers are safe thank goodness.

    Given the lack of details in the story, why are so many accusing the driver of idiocy? It's equally possible that the driver heroically avoided a head on because of the actions of an oncoming driver, no?
     
  16. Maximus

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    The plates do remain with the car in the NL, yet this only applies for the Yellow-plates. The green plates are so called "Dealerplaten" or "Dealerplates", cardealerships can place these plates temporarilly whereas they are then the riskbarrer for possible damage. This is mainly used for testdrives etc.

    I'll get back to you on the VIN.
     
  17. NürScud

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    Glad everyone is ok. Cars are just cars....
     
  18. Maximus

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    Hi Enzo the VIN is 191136 for the crashed F12
     
  19. speedsterr

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    You want to buy a totaled car?
     
  20. 3604u

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    I would buy a totaled car for the track :)
     
  21. 134282

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    This is fantastic, thank you! You were able to determine this information so quickly. For the data, and for its expeditiously delivery, I am eternally grateful. Thank you!


    ...any other VINs you've learned and want to pass on, please feel free to do so. :D
     
  22. Noblesse Oblige

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    That would make it one of the early ones. Right now the factory is making VIN 200xxx.
     
  23. 4th_gear

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    FWIW, if you haven't already found out, the dealer is Kroymans Ferrari B.V. in Hilversum. The accident supposedly happened in Breukeleveen, beautiful area but definitely not suitable for high speed runs. Had the driver gone off on the other side, he would have ended up in the drink.
     
  24. El-Loco

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    It had 17K km's on the clock already. A lot for such a car. Insurance will probably take care of it, don't think they'll miss a demo with that many kilometers.
     
  25. 134282

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    I imagine you're right, Ferrari is stamping 200000s right now, though I haven't seen one yet. Highest I've seen is high 198xxx - do you have any proof or have you seen a serial number that's 200000 or higher? I would love to see it.
     

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