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  1. ttforcefed

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    do you like it with or without the stripe?
     
  2. DreamGTO

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    With!
     
  3. ttforcefed

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    That's the one you shld buy then
     
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  4. Mikestradale

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    Agreed on the wheels, doesnt look good. A set of 19" CS wheels usually sells for 5-6k and a belt+fluid service is another 4-5k? So around $10k in total to "fix" it.

    Example of CS wheels with tires asking $6500 (this one just sold here on fchat)
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/ferrari-360-430-19-stradale-challenge-wheels.560076/
     
  5. Mikestradale

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    I would say it adds value to the car if it has a factory stripe. How much? Hard to say. Some prefer with stripe, some like the clean look of a stripeless CS.

    Some statistics of my CS registry:

    Stripe
    No stripe 363 (48.59%)
    Factory stripe 127 (17.00%)
    Aftermarket stripe 110 (14.73%)
    Aftermarket or factory? 145 (19.41%)
    French flag stripe 2 (0.27%)

    747 cars in total.

    Source: http://www.challengestradale.com/stats.html
     
  6. arizonaitalian

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    #8981 arizonaitalian, Sep 21, 2017
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    Where are you getting this "belief"?

    Pretty sure that is nowhere near correct. The factory stripe is far more rare than non-stripe. I've heard around 1 in 4 CS's before.

    Mike has perhaps the best data on this. His database (which contains over 50% of all CS's) shows 17% with confirmed factory stripe. Interestingly it shows 15% with confirmed after-market stripe. So, many folks whose cars came without one from the factory think having the stripe is nice and have added one. There are another 19% where his database doesn't show if factory or after-market...even if one split that at 50/50, the factory stripe rate would be approximately 27%. And another 24% are imitating the factory stripe by adding one later on. So, "yeah" about half of all CS's have a stripe, but only about a quarter are original from the factory. The other quarter are imitating the look - imitation is the sincerest form of flattery after-all :)

     
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  7. CarbonDan

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    I was basing it off of his registry as well. I hadn't looked over it in a few months and just remember seeing the 48%. Glad to see mine is even rarer than I thought.
     
  8. DreamGTO

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    Thank you all. Decided for factory stripes and alcantara interior. Now the task is to find a great one (not in red color).
    Do you know of one out there in USA?
    I know about the silver one from Spivi but not sure if it is sold.
     
  9. DreamGTO

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    Actually, the silver has leather interior...
     
  10. Mikestradale

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    A non-red, factory stripe with alcantara car will be hard to find.

    Not sure if this car is still for sale. Nero with red-black alcantara and factory stripe: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/challenge-stradale.555657/
    Link to registry with history and archive photos: http://www.challengestradale.com/139046.html

    All other non-red cars with alcantara have no stripe or aftermarket stripe:
    Nero Daytona with red-black alcantara: http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-details/2004-ferrari-360-challenge-stradale-lynnwood-wa-id-19760300
    Giallo Modena with black-yellow alcantara: http://www.porschescottsdale.com/detail-2004-ferrari-360_modena-challenge_stradale-used-16856087.html
    Argento Nurburgring with red-black alcantara: https://www.ferrariofnewportbeach.com/used-Newport+Beach-2004-Ferrari-360+Challenge+Stradale-Base-ZFFDU57A540137363
    Giallo Modena with red-black alcantara: http://www.ftlauderdalecollection.com/detail-2004-ferrari-360_modena-challenge_stradale-used-16299281.html
    Blu Le Mans with grey-navy alcantara: http://www.mbrandonmotorcars.com/2004-ferrari-360-challenge-stradale-40138536

    Source: http://www.challengestradale.com/forsale.html
     
  11. DreamGTO

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    Thanks Mike! Does the forum know the yellow one with aftermarket stripe in Orlando?
     
  12. stokpro

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    Mike has the data on worldwide CS'. For North America, less than 1/3 of CS' came with factory stripes.
     
  13. stokpro

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    139046 sold

    @DreamGTO here's another CS similar to 139046 for sale:

    https://inventory.emcars.com/vehicles/6/2004-ferrari-360-stradale-stradale
     
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    a few weeks ago I did acquire chassis 137262... I certainly did look at a number of available CS cars and reviewed the values.. I would agree that the current market for a better than average CS is a little north of $200k... In my case, I prefer the leather to alcantara...and was lucky to find a car with the factory stripe...
     
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  17. arizonaitalian

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    That's a cool car, silver, stripe, blue leather..very unique. I prefer leather too (sought it out when I got mine). Its just a matter of personal preference of course, can't go wrong either way in a CS :)
     
  18. stokpro

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    Even though the link works, I don't think this car is still available. It also doesn't appear in his inventory.

    Blu Le Mans with grey-navy alcantara: http://www.mbrandonmotorcars.com/2004-ferrari-360-challenge-stradale-40138536
     
  19. stokpro

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    Blue leather?
     
  20. stokpro

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    Current market does not support near $300k but there are outliers. Overall the market has softened quite a bit. 139046 was super low mileage with all OEM accoutrements which helped it fetch close to asking price.
     
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    Congrats and welcome to the club! Gene took great care of that whip.
     
  23. CarbonDan

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    #8998 CarbonDan, Sep 24, 2017
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    138536 Really does it for me. I'm normally not a big fan of blue but that interior is unreal! 137262 was owned by a member on here.
     
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    #9000 Mikestradale, Oct 27, 2017
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    ZFFDT57J000135301 is now for sale by Tom Hartley in the UK (recently imported from Japan).

    Bianco Avus
    Blue-black alcantara
    No Stradale stripe but a 16M style stripe (I guess this is aftermarket?)
    Black calipers
    Radio (most Japanese cars have switched the radio and the AC/heater panel because of the radio touchscreen)
    Rear view camera

    Mileage 20000 km
    Asking price £164950

    Link to registry: http://challengestradale.com/135301.html
    Link to Tom Hartley website: http://www.tomhartley.com/used/2004/ferrari/challenge-stradale/2004-ferrari-challenge-stradale-swadlincote-for-sale-360csjap

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