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  1. Oz-ATL

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  2. Michael8888

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    I was the cover bid.:(
     
  3. ifeelfree0

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    Safe to say the $300k asks are nowhere near being met. This looked like a nice example, based on what was presented
     
  4. ttforcefed

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    10k mile cars have never been 300k
     
  5. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    Safe to say that 5k miles @ 300k, 10k miles @ $250k, and 20k miles @ 200k?
     
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  6. ttforcefed

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    That seems like a reasonable way to look at it.
     
  7. JPMD

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    keep in mind the selling price on that auction does not take into consideration 6% buyers fee
     
  8. Oz-ATL

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    Factory stripe usually pulls an additional $20k or so though.
     
  9. ttforcefed

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    18,875
    Not even close
     
  10. ttforcefed

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    I thought they had a flat fee like bat?
     
  11. ifeelfree0

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    5 percent
     
  12. ttforcefed

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  13. Michael B

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    So $252,500 + 6K sterling.
     
  14. JPMD

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    Looks like 5% or max 5K if US buyer

    BUYERS NOT IN THE UNITED KINGDOM
    Our fees are 5%.

    Currency of auction Minimum Fee Maximum Fee
    British Pounds £500 £5,000
    Euros €500 €5,000
    U.S. Dollars $500 $5,000
    Australian Dollars AU$1,000 AU$10,000
     
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  15. Oz-ATL

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    you think more? $40k? I’ve contemplated moving my gated 355 GTB and getting into a CS.
     
  16. ttforcefed

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    No, way less. Its a sticker.
     
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  17. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    2 years ago there were 2 local ones at San Francisco sports car for 160k and 20k miles! Pretty decent return on investment!


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  18. ShineKen

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    If a 20k mi CS is $200k ...

    A GREEN gated F355 w/ 50k mi just sold last week for $140k. Does this mean a gated F355 is within 20% of CS with equivalent miles?

    https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1995-ferrari-f355-berlinetta/
     
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  19. Mikestradale

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    ZFFDU57A440136544

    Rosso Scuderia / factory stripe / red-black alcantara / Rosso Scuderia calipers / spare tire kit / 10366 miles

    Link to registry: http://www.challengestradale.com/136544.html
    Link to dealer: https://www.reimelmotorcars.com/vehicles/152/2004-ferrari-360-challenge-stradale

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  20. Matt Andrews

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    I think this is an interesting topic. couple variables I don't know how you build into the calculator, but they matter:
    1. The 355's that are bringing the money are manual. The market wants manuals right now. CS doesn't have it as an option. A F1 355 compares to a F1 CS very different.
    2. 355 prices appear to be less impacted by miles now. More about condition. CS is still pretty mileage sensitive. In your example, I'd actually say that a 50k/mi CS would bring pretty similar money to that 50k/mi manual 355.

    But it does seem like 355 values have risen a massive amount while CS have risen less. I think its just a matter of time, but who knows. It is however a driving factor on why I selected the CS over the 355. I wanted a 355 when I thought good ones were $85k, and I kept passing and chasing the market up. When they got to this year's levels, I found my CS and just thought it was so much more car for not a ton more money. So I bought that instead.
     
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  21. ShineKen

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    Is the $150k Silver CS w/ 50k mi still on the market?

    Does this mean a 10k mi manual 355 is worth $225-250k?

    Some things to think about if one plans to negotiate a trade-in :).
     
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  22. ttforcefed

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    Dont think the silver one is available anymore.
     
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  23. JAM1

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  24. Mikestradale

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    This Ferrari alcantara dealer sample box is currently offered for sale on catawiki. I have one of these boxes on display in my garage, pretty cool item, with 6 alcantara samples. No affiliation with the seller.

    4 days left on catawiki auction (highest bid at €137 now)
    https://www.catawiki.com/en/l/49395917-brochures-catalogi-original-ferrari-alcantara-sample-show-case-allestimenti-speciali-special-trim-rarity-ferrari-na-2000

    This other one box was sold by RM last year ($540)
    https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/0620/open-roads--fall/lots/n2127-ferrari-allestimenti-specialispecial-trim-alcantara-color-samples/1011244

    There’s also one for sale in the UK (1500 gbp)
    https://www.classicferrariparts.co.uk/shop/2000s-ferrari-alcantara-allestimenti-speciali-special-trim-dealer-sample-book-case/

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  25. MrRdStr

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