Found this on YouTube.. Is there a full review of the 3 cars anywhere? I'm surprised there hasn't been a video made yet. http://youtu.be/ec9_sYeHGC0
Kind of pointless though, wouldn't you say? Maybe the Speciale and Scuderia are fairly close, but the Stradale would've been spanked.
I would love to see a vid of the 3 of them race that would be awesome maybe Freshmeet can arange that!?
It's been done. Specialé > Scuderia > CS in a straight. However, most will be surprised, at least w my moderately modified Scuderia, the gap between Specialé and Scuderia is not at all dramatic as compared to Scuderia with CS, where the CS was just left in the dust by 10 odd car lengths. We're talking a fraction of a car length between Specialé w exhaust and moderately modified Scuderia up to 130ish mph.
oh and rolling start. because my pos single clutch can't handle launches. i have no doubt if given more road / higher speeds, the Specialé would've kept pulling further away from me.
Not sure I'm buying this. The Speciale is 2 sec quicker to 200km/h (124 mph) from rest than the Scuderia according to zeperfs, which is an amalgam of various press recorded times. That is a lot. Other notable comparisons, 80-120 km/h in sixth the Scuderia is 8s, the Speciale 4.2s(!!), power to weight (kg/ps) the Scud is 2.9, the Speciale is 2.5, with better and more efficient aero. These are big differences. Scud compared to the CS gives an interesting picture - 0-200 km/h heavily favours the Scud (11.2 v 15.7) whereas the 80-120 in sixth time is much closer (8s v 8.7s). This result is particularly surprising since the CS has a reputation for having very limited torque (something I never fully agreed with). The Speciale is on another level though, and the mid range figures tend to be more indicative of how quick a car really is in the real world. Other notable mid range benchmarks; 60-100 km/h in fourth, 3.3 against 2.3, 80-120 km/h in fifth, 5 against 3 and finally 130-160 km/h in sixth, 5.1 against 3.2. Speciale has 7 gears to Scud's 6, but even when the cars go from 80-180 km/h in the quickest gear possible the difference is still 5.2 against 6.2 (which is 20%, same as the 0-200 km/h differential). To emphasize the point that the start does not favour the Speciale (gearbox, TC software etc) the 0-80 km/h time is identical at 2.6s, which is interesting. Ferrari 430 Scuderia vs Ferrari 458 Speciale [16874652]
I buy it. My scud isn't stock so according those figures and the est. gains I have from headers, cats, xpipe, tune, air intake (not filters) etc, the 3/4 or so of a car length it pulled on me from a rolling start to 130ish mph seems realistic. More than happy to do a few more pulls w Speciale owners in my area for sh!ets and giggles.
The Challenge Stradale is the best looking and the best sounding. Who cares how it comes out in a drag race, I got nowhere on the streets of Dallas to do that anyway. (Besides I have a 4.0 Whipple 780hp Ford GT that will beat them all in a straight line). GREAT VIDEO!
Comparisons of in gear acceleration speeds when comparing 6 speed to 7 speed are meaningless for any given gear - the only comparison is best times. All important on road 80-120 time is 0.3 seconds different! If you add in to the mix real on road driving situations where you aren't always sat on the point of maximum attack but instead need to drop a couple of gears for an overtake then the non sequential gearbox in the Scud can drop from 5th to 3rd in 0.06 seconds, even a Speciale can't live with this speed of double gear change which will further reduce the 0.3 second difference. By way of comparison the CS for the same 80-120 increment has a fastest time of 2.5 seconds - a further 0.6 seconds slower and without SF2 gear changes to quickly select the best gear for max attack. 'SCUD' Verb. To move fast as if driven by the wind.
Mike - fun vid. Others talking about relative speed of 3 generations of "track oriented" ferrari v8s = yawn.
This whole 'comparison' issue between the CS and the Scud is a red herring. No one doubts the Scud is 'faster', but there is something sublime and visceral about the handling of the CS. Although I admire the technical aspects of the Scud, the driving experience of the CS is second to none. If I had to have one car.....
Hey I just enjoy reading this stuff and can’t offer anything other than my opinions. Have a cs and a spec. Almost ANYONE fairly talented could drive the CS with real predictability at speed despite the tech package is more than a decade older. It just rails in a more “old school race ready package”. IMHO the spec is a different animal; blistering fast yet more complicated to drive at real speeds. If you can drive, it becomes a toss up of generational advancements to master at the time. Fastest laps the spec will significantly out perform for obvious reasons. Fun factor? Hmmmmm. I would knod a CS as so raw. Sorry no real experience or ownership with a Scud. Just two beautiful cars made by the greatest Brand IMHO- both love to be driven hard.
