Current F12 Depreciation Opinions with New F12 M Looming

I am interested in this also...anyone's input welcome

 

My spider told me to tell you she's very sophisticated.

 

A 488 Spider new will lose more money than a pre-owned F12 and the 488 is not regarded with that much affection contrast say 355 and 458. Tread carefully.

Mac 720 will also hammer it.

 

The F12 is going to depreciate but should go no lower than the very very very top of the 599 F1 price range. For the same money few would choose the 599 F1 which, though a great car, is substantially overmatched by the F12.

 

Flattery definitely helps here!

It depends which market you are in as U.K. is somewhat different from the US, but overall the F12 will depreciate but will still have the strong 599 residuals to support it. Europe would appear to be the weakest market at present, whereas the U.K. would appear to be one of the strongest.

It also very much depends on the question hovering over 812 pricing with some markets anticipating a lower price than the F12 which would obviously hammer F12 prices and others, like the UK, anticipating an increase which will help F12 values.

Regardless, it's an utterly brilliant car and value.

 

I've followed the prices of the F12's in continental Europe through auto scout 24 regularly during more than 6 months and despite of the fact that there were around ninety cars available for sale I got the impression that the prices haven't gone down. I checked several cars which haven't been sold during the last half year and the present listed prices are maintained the same.

Since I intended to buy the F12 I exchanged correspondence with several sellers, only in Germany, who had cars that interested me and got to the conclusion that the maximum discount they would make was around 5%. Based on my experience in the German market I can say the F12 prices are holding extremely well.

 

Totally agree the prices in Europe are holding firm.

 

I Think F12 prices will gently come off further, but in a short while ( 1 or 2 years maybe) will stabalise and maybe one day rise. Going against the car is the fact that its quite plentiful (by "classic" standards) and that perhaps because it was so good there are no small batch roll out models to put your money on.
There was no need for an F12 HGTE or F12 FHP.

So the best bet is probably ultra low milage, popular colour and so on which you should never drive for fear of losing value.
Where though is the fun in that?
I'll be looking for a Verde English or Verde Zeltweg car with a good history..there must be what, 3 of those?

 

I think that's about right, except it seems the 599 has ticked slightly upwards lately. My personal opinion is the F12 should be about $75k over a 599, the car is that much of a move above it, but its very possible the average delta will be in that $30-50k range.

 

I think f12b will level off at 250k for cars under 10k mi good spec when the SF has been out for a year or so. Obviously if you want to get the " best deal " then it's better to wait another year and a half at least. But in my opinion you should just get the car now and enjoy it sooner. You can probably " bottom feed" for 250-260k within the end of the year.

 

I agree with both of you. My advice to the OP or anyone looking is so long as the money part is not make or break: enjoy today, you don't know what tomorrow may bring.

 

I do like the idea of a ~$200k (higher milage) 1.5 years from now...means I wont have to worry about putting more miles on it. I would get my value by actually driving it 5k per year, seems like the best approach for me...no interest in garage queens, life is too short

 

Some may say life is too short to not buy what you love especially because of few bucks. Makes as much sense as not driving the car just because of depreciation. Either way your not driving a Ferrari. If you wait another 5 or 6 years it may even be less - save more money. Everyone likes to save money and get a good deal and that's great but to deny experiencing what makes you happy is cruel especially if you really can afford it.

 

Yea to the post above, I think some people value the accumulation of wealth more than the experience of driving the car. Therefore they would rather wait. I personally would rather be driving

 

And the cars are always special, so whether its a new model or a pre owned one, you are getting a special car that exists outside the usual boundaries of how much performance are you getting for your money. Its entirely your choice. I've done it both ways for various reasons and no matter how you slice it- Ferraris are special.

I visited a friend very sick in the hospital yesterday, just for some added perspective on enjoying the now.

 

Anyone that wants to "bottom feed" my much loved 28,000 mile grigio titanio/black F12 please pm me. The 812 is going to be the daily driver real soon!

 

I just got home from the cardiac surgery ward at John's Hopkins today. I can tell you no BS that life is precious and waiting for the bottom can be a foolish strategy. I will be driving my F12 this year and every year. The bottom can be very deep my friends.

 

Take good care of yourself and enjoy your F12 in good health.

 

+1 to that. Cheers my F12 friends!

 

Enjoy it in good health!

 

I think you have a good year before the first US deliveries no ?