Well, I've never thrown a whore out of bed.....maybe out of the house....but not out of bed Shamile Freeze. ...Miami Vice! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk
Mods are unfortunate, but reversible. No mention of when the last major was performed, if at all. A much nicer, all-original '91 just sold for $122k. Not a "monospecchio", but I think that the earliest and latest examples of this car both have special market appeal. I've been following the market intently for some time and from what I've seen, in order to command a $142k selling price today, a TR would have to be pretty damned spectacular. Now, there are plenty of TRs out there with asking prices in excess of $140k (even $200k!), but those cars have all been sitting on the market for months. Every time someone lists a nice car for $110k - $120k, it sells. All of these cars listed for $140k+ haven't. I think we can tell where the market is, at least for right now. But who knows where it's going?
Why don't you care about your 12c. I'm sure it is even nicer than your tr. I never get this logic, it had to be the money. Care for the car, but remember what Jim G says. I bought and drove a 99.78 point etype convertible for 14 years. It looked fabulous the day I sold it in 2013. They are all replaceable if anything happens. Life is the only thing to worry about.
That's the thing.....they're not replaceable. Modern Lamborghinis and Ferraris are well.......disposable. There's lots made and if you get knocked out of it like an accident in my case, you can get back into another one. Shamile Freeze. .Miami Vice!
By the way, there are two nice looking cars that are currently being offered for sale by our fellow F-Chatters (Shamile's '91 and plugzit's '89), both with asking prices of $125k. It'll be interesting to see what happens with each.
Haha...like I always say....."work hard...play hard"! Shamile Freeze. ..Miami Vice! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk
It's not that I don't care about it... I certainly do... In fact I love it! But the paint isn't all original single stage rossa corsa that you can't even find anymore and every single part on the 12c can be replaced like new. Classic cars are only original once... And mine was a 98 point multiple award winning all original example. If I got in an accident, bottomed her out, bent a wheel or broke something unobtamium, the car would never have been the same... At least in my eyes. That's a lot of pressure and took away from the driving experience. I take exceptional care of my 12c... It gets detailed every time I go out and is never abused. But I enjoy it without stress... I don't care about miles accrued, etc.... I just get to love it and use it. I'm an enthusiast.... I was never meant to be a collector
Brad, It seems that all of your posts are literally about the same thing - bashing the current prices these beautiful cars are selling for. This holds true in just about every forum you post too throughout F Chat. Here is my critique, this forum is for people who own Ferraris, which you do not. Also, I wonder if you have ever heard of the saying, "There's no sense in beating a dead horse". Everyone and their grandmother already no where you stand on market values for your hundreds of posts throughout FChat has clearly illustrated your position. I wonder what is the power of your intention?? Are you trying to convince yourself that you did the right thing by selling your salvaged Testarossa?? You said that it would be very easy to replace the Testarossa that you sold and I believe you. However, some of us own pristine examples of Testarossa's with clear, clean titles that are very hard to replace because they represent the top 10% of the market and are close to finding a needle in a haystack. I guess in the end, I feel your constant negative assumptions are tiresome to put it mildly. You are also serving to disrespect the very cars most of us own by your continual unwarranted bashing. You made your point with your last 100 posts, now you might want to start thinking about a different topic. I feel funny even addressing you as Brad Williams when I know that's not even your real name. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect that but how many times do you need to say the same thing???
He did not buy it for $45k... Ask me how I know.. I do find this thread very interesting and I am choosing to stay pretty much on the side lines on this one.. Only reason why I feel the urge to chime in is that I feel that my car I sold Brad is being talked about as a two bit hooker on crack coming out of rehab. Not the case. I know the reason why he sold her and actually discussed with him prior to him selling. I don't like my car being talked about so negatively and with a disrespectful tone. I do understand everyone, their views and their opinion. I actually had brunch with Brad this past weekend. Although I no longer own her I am still very passionate about her and how she is spoken about.. Yeah Yeah I'm being a bit touchy feely because it was my car.. Yes.. She was my b*tch.. For a long time I was being told the Testarossa is on the rise and I was in agreement.. At the time I was not in agreement that all cars were being sold for 6 figures when in fact at the time they were not.. Most but not all.. Currently it seems majority if not all Testarossa cars are in the six figures now... Sucks for me but I just don't know if I can go thru the whole sorting process again. See for me its about the drive.. I really never thought about how prices are rising or counting my money during ownership... Some became obsessed with the values constantly looking up ads, counting the dollars.. Its all good and I can respect that.. Its just not me.. I drove her.. I enjoyed her.. I think there is a bubble and in my opinion I don't see Testarossa values falling below 6 figures unless it is a disaster of a car. I told Brad if he is right then he gets props.. but if he is wrong he will get ripped.. BIG TIME.. me being one of them... Especially being redundant as he has been.. I feel like I'm listening to a record skip.. Maybe I am whining like a b*tch because she was mine.. So be it.. One thing I do know is out of all the TR's I've seen, read about, followed thru for sale ads... etc... all of them... Tutto! I can count on one hand how many ran and drove the way she did.. Spasso TR being one of them.. Yeah she is not worth as much money as the others but when your not counting money and concentrate on the flavor.. Oh boy was she tasty.... Very tasty indeed.. That is what's important to me.. For those that know me they know I am passionate about both cars I've owned.. Ahh... feel better now... R
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In quoting May West, are you trying to infer that the reason someone posts about the same drivel over and over is due to a drinking problem? Interesting😄
So let me see if I get this , only you and brad are allowed to decide which testarossa's you can takedown / talk down to and all the new owners that spent over 100 aren't allowed ? The two of you are not only shameful , but should be embrassed at what you constantly post. The car does not belong to you anymore, if I want to talk about it as a 2bit wh&& as you are allowed to still call it a b&itch , then it's my freedom of speech to do so ! Your old car was a recorded written off car , in car terms, it was the bottom feeder car that you brought back - good for you , I don't begrudge that one bit, and I'm glad you got to live out a dream. But the rest of what you say is utter nonsense! The both of you need to grow up and stop thinking that this testarossa section belongs to only your views and way of the world. Lastly, I can only hope that your old car went to a better owner an owner that takes it to the next level and prices climb so he / she can double there price point to keep guys like you and brad out. No hard feelings
Negative. I separated my passion and emotion from the current economic climate. Doesn't make me a speculator, just taking advantage of a situation that I had no idea I would be in. Nobody had a clue that the values would violently swing upward, me included. Also, I put 4000 miles on the Testarossa last year. How many did you do in yours?? Stating an opinion on what something is worth is not disrespect to a car. This is an erroneous assumption. For the record, I think the TR is the prettiest Ferrari ever, that's why I bought one. Ask Chairman, I've been in love with the car since I was 6 years old and saw my neighbor drive by in it. Secondly, Testarossas are not up 3x in value because they are pretty. They are up because people are flipping them. Do I sound like I'm on repeat? Sure, I do. But simply stating an opinion on what a black car on ebay is worth does not make me a beater of a dead horse. When somebody asks me why I think a car is worth 55k, I gave an answer. It's a free country. Stop taking value threads as personal attacks against cars. The Testarossa is not the only car swept up in the anarchy right now. Many others are as well. If the Testarossa was a sub 1000 or sub 500 unit production car, then I'd say it is absolutely worth well over six figures and some. Fact is that it isn't. That's not a slam against the car or the owners. A well known Ferrari historian and ex-Testarossa owner told me this. He's been collecting Ferraris since 1971. So I really don't see my opinion on price as unwarranted. Did I lash out at him when he told me? Absolutely not. The only reason you're seeing what you refer to as "drivel" is because you are taking personal offense to it, and lashing back at me personally, when we've never met. Amateur hour. When did I say that I'm the only one to decide which Testarossas I can takedown/talk down? And when did I say that the new owners who spend over 100 aren't? Again, more assumptions and more condescending remarks. I've respected the opinions of others on here. You clearly are incapable of doing so. And I am the one who is supposed to grow up? Geez
Really. What the hell are you talking about. You may want to read my post again. I think your angry and are to ignorant to understand what I am saying. I support the rise of the TR and your just an ******* putting words in people's mouth. Shameful for what. Constantly saying what. Check yourself Take that stick out of your ass and throw it away. Stop stirring your coffee with it and putting it back up your ass to reuse. Plus what the f*ck do you know. I've been appraising cars for over 25 f*cking years. What do you do. Read a f*cking magazine and think you know it all when you know sh*t. Stay in your business and I'll stay in mine. Yeah no offense taken. Shall we end it or Keep going. R
The two of you are only able to dish it out. Mr chairman , no need to call me an a$$***** , just proves how sensitive and bitter the two of you have become. Obvious you can't have a conversation without a personal attack , very classy of you ! Brad Williams, I have put far more than 4,000 in over 15 yrs, sucks to me I will log off now and no longer post so the two of you can discuss the testarossa , it's values, etc since you are both experts on the market and the bubble and all things testarossa. Rolmao !
Oh boy. All I'll say in reponse to this is "And If You Believe That, I Have A Bridge To Sell You" No hard feelings.
Brad or whatever your real name is, it is apparent by the number of FChatters that have called you out for saying the same thing over and over that I am not alone in the way that I feel. You still haven't answered my original question. Why do you feel the need to constantly post the same thing over and over and over?? I guess it's a rhetorical question. If the $10,000 in profit that you attained was that important to you to discard a car that you were in love with since 6 years of age I guess I know where your treasures lie. I don't begrudge you as every person views money differently and perhaps your need for the cash outweighed your love for the car. But to think that everyone thinks that way, is in my opinion, really ignorant.
I don't feel the need. I stated that I thought a car on ebay was worth 55k. I was then asked why, and gave the answer. period the end. I never said everyone thinks that way. I never said anybody's opinion is unwarranted, yet some others on here say that mine is. And then I get called a know it all. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me.
