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Custom chip tuning at Competizione for the 3.4 liter engine: results.

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  1. WilyB

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    #1 WilyB, Feb 9, 2008
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    Custom chip tuning at Competizione for the 3.4 liter engine: results.

    Richard and Fernando at Competizione in Gaithersburg found a sorcerer in Italy that knows in-depth how to program the MOTRONIC’s EPROMs.

    My goal was to get rid of the big dip at mid rpm (4000 to 6000) that the K&N, test pipes and Stebro exhaust had created on my otherwise stock Mondial T.

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180285

    Well, the new chip offered exactly what I wanted (I wonder if I should have asked like 500hp? :D).

    Torque at the hub is up from 212.4 to 219.0, but, much more important, the max torque rpm is down from 5800 to 4200!

    The Mondial’s drivability is now the same as before the intake/exhaust modifications, just with about +5 to 6% power/torque across the whole rpm range. If one admits a 15% power loss through the transmission, the car now makes about 315hp and 252 lb/ft at the crank, which is about how the car feels. I may be a bit spoiled, as my daily driver has 460 lb/ft… ;) I also noticed the car revs much higher than before: I lifted the pedal at 8000… I have to ask Fernando about the new limit?

    In short: a great improvement, custom tuned to my car. I am very happy and I would recommend you to call Competizione about their custom tuning.

    PS1: The AFR is taken at the exhaust. In real life, it converts to 0.5 lower numbers.
    PS2: Three lowest graphs were the baseline runs with the K&N and Stebro, but not tuned. The two mid graphs were made last night, in a high CO2 content atmosphere. The light blue graph was this morning.
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  2. potxoli

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    this is awesome! I can't wait to get mine done. Can you PM me the price? I need to start saving....
     
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    That is fantastic :)!!!!!!!
     
  5. WilyB

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    I took the Mondial out tonight. Wow. It's really like the old one "plus".

    I wonder what it will do on the 1/4 mile? Low 14 or high13s? The engine really wakes up past 4000 and scream all the way to 8000.

    My daily driver, a 335 with a piggy back, does the 1/4 mile in the low 13s/107mph, but I get no traction from 0 to 30 due to the lack of LSD.
     
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    I have seen the best of a 13.8 in my Mondi T coupe. I would bet you could rival that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1maYzWhJ0k0

    Great post by the way. Nice work.
     
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    #8 WilyB, Feb 10, 2008
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    Out of curiosity, I did measure the MAF resistance (PIN 1 & 6) and I got 384 Ω on the right one but 1050 Ω on the left one!!! Anyone ever seen that before?

    Other question: how to you remove the round black and aluminum cap to access the tuning screw? I tried to use some kind force (fingers) and prefer to ask before using some more brutal force, given the replacement cost!
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  9. Ben348

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    Wily,

    I too had a different reading on the left/right maf.
    I got the alu pluggs out by drilling a little hole in it and screwwing a left hand tap in it, but any screw wil do.
    Screw it in till it jams, and than pull it out. This requers a bit of force.

    Happy wrencing!

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    Thanks! (and thanks to ND for his PM). But is not "1050 Ω" way out of whack?
     
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    Yes, 1050 ohms is far too lean to do any good at all, especially when it is such a different setting from the other side of your engine.

    Might have something to do with dirty pins. Think about cleaning the MAF cable pins.
     
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    With compressed air or some electronic (computer) cleaning solutions?
     
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    Liquids. Electrical contact cleaner spray and Stabilant 22a are your friends!
     
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    +1 Good advice!!! Especially when the ECU is depending on those voltages for A/F calculations.... :eek:
     
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    Is this a 2.5 or a 2.7? Is chip tuning available for the 2.5?
     
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    Based on the advice from the brotherhood here, I got really physical with them and drilled them out. Was a pain in the a$$ but worked. You really can't hurt anything.
     
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    Mine is a 2.5, but the very first Ferrari Competizione tried the new chips on was a 360. On the 360, the top end did not change much but the mid-range torque did improve noticeably. They saw several 2.5, 2.7 and later awaiting shipment.

    Best is to give them a call.
     
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    Cool, mine's a 2.5. Hoping Richard will come down to VIR for the VSCCA school in May. I can pick his brain then.
     
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    I still measure 1050 Ω between pin 1 & 6 after a thorough cleaning with Electrical contact cleaning solution.

    Ferrari "offers" a new MAF for $1050. After I gave them the BOSCH remanufactured part # 0 986 280 110 Fernando had given me, they came up with a quote of $500 (no core needed).

    I ordered one from N_D’s link (thank you Sir) for $249.75 (minus the $66 core). I also ordered on eBay an almost identical SAAB 900’s MAF for $60 to play with.
     
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    why get a new one, just screw it back to 383Ohm`s....

    regards, Ben
     
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    +1 ^What he said.^

    That's the reason for removing the cap, so that you have access to the screw.
     
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    True, but if I screw up the Mondial would be out of commission until the new part arrives. As Fernando confirms the unit was properly set up at 383 Ohms when they did the major service a few months ago, it is possible that the unit went bad anyway.

    If the unit is good, that will give me an opportunity to try FerrariAds! :)
     
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    I'm confused, how can you screw up? You just turn a screw. Have fernando turn the screw for you if you are paranoid :) I'd try that first before springing for another MAF.
     
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    Dude, dude, if you do not turn the screw how do u know the MAF is really broken?! Look, if u take the position that it is already screwed up, how can mess it up further?

    Case in point: after the intake plenum replacements, my left MAF went to 1020 Ohms while the right one was just fine at the 383 where I it last month. I started down the "My MAF is screwed" road and sought a replacement. 1989 Volvo 240 is the part I found BTW. BUT, I then figured screw it just adjust the resistence screw. Hey, guess what - it took a few turns but it is fine now. Who cares what when wrong? Those things get out of whack by a number of variables. Maybe something went thru the MAF to alter the resistence of the wires. Maybe you grounded it somehow. Maybe the wires just age and the resistence changes with the metal aging.

    Who cares?! It's fine and running now. After I ran the car for a bit, I checked and rechecked the MAF resistences and they are exactly where they are supposed to be.

    So, dude, go ahead and adjust them since they are already screwed anyway. :p :D :) ;)
     
  25. WilyB

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    So I can just drill the cap out of existence without fear of damaging something behind it?
     

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