Daily SF90 (2 month impression so far) just switched from CUP2 tires to PS4S

I switched from CUP 2 tires to PS4S tires at around 2200 miles, front has a ton tread left, rear was at near wear bar. I was having issues spinning tires even in 3rd gear. Thanks to recommendation of another Fchat member, I replaced all 4 tires with PS4S. After taking it easy for first 10~20 miles or so, I gradually test out the grip with caution. Absolute nuts, even in race mode floor it in 1st it is brutally quick and sticks with zero delay.

This car is definitely capable of 2.5 sec or less 0~60 "without" use of launch control. Where my 992 Turbo S while insanely quick with launch control, the delta between with and without using launch control is 1.2~1.5sec difference due to delay/pause off the line if just floor it.

I am two months into SF90, I have gotten quite familiar with the car now. A few key points:

-I have not used launch control even once, this car absolutely doesn't need it, it is instant. It is possible to make 992 Trubo S faster with mods, but even if it has 1500hp or more, it will never have the instant feel of SF90 no matter how extensive the mod list is.

-Rolling acceleration is shocking, I thought F8 was adequately fast for me already (faster than 992turbo S with stage 1 tune), the SF90 is whole new level, defintiely a high 4s to 5 sec 60mph to 130mph car. Any brief acceleration it is at 100mph+ on the street, needs to be on brake immediately.

-Car can start in hybrid mode and pull away quietly without engine starting. However, ev mode on the mode selector will not be available until car is warm (5 to 10 minute or so) then it will show "EV ready" on dash.

-Car feels incredibly light and nimble, kinda reminds me of 570S I had back in 2016. I also had Aventador SV, it is a big car and felt big, SF90 is similar in size, but doesn't feel big or heavy when driving it.

-Appears to be very well built, zero issues, zero squeaks. On my previous F8 and 992 Turbo S, car had squeaks in several areas, I end up fixing all squeaks on my own through trial and error (roof, dash, door, bulkhead trims, seat belt, etc).

-I previous daily drove 488, 3 Hybrid NSXes (Including Type S), Taycan Trubo S, F8, and 992 Turbo S. They were almost all fantastic cars (Taycan TTS I didn't enjoy it), F8 was best of bunch while 992 TTS was easiest to drive fast while keeping underwear dry, being a non hybrid and trubo, F8 was really resonsive.

-The hybrid system is best one I have experienced so far, the ones on NSXes were good. The one on SF90 just felt a lot more usable, responsive, smoother + true ev mode. I mostly use qualifying mode/sport or race, from time to time full ev mode.

-Haptic control is fine, I have zero problem with it, only once accidentally pressed the voice control.

-Bluetooth doesn't drop off on me, on my previous F8, I often have to reconnect bluetooth every few days.

-Sport mode is very safe, somehow the traction control is seemless, race mode with previous cup 2 tires, it span tires if I floor it from 60~70mph.

-In Race mode, the exhaust valves seem to stay open longer on deceleration

 

Congrats!!

The car will start in hybrid mode without engine running by default, you press start once to turn on accessory, second press car starts silently in hybrid. When I first got the car I was confused as it start silently and I would press it for 3rd time and end up turning off the car.

You will be able to leave the neighborhood quietly. I have not tried to see how far it can go before engine starts. I usually just leave neighborhood quietly as cold start is quite loud and neighbor has new born baby. As soon as I am a few hundred feet away, I put the car in qualifying mode and engine starts. You can also manually start in Qualifying, performance, and hybrid mode, just not ev mode.

For a while I thought something wrong with the car as I could not put it in full ev mode from the start. It turned out need to wait 5 to 10 minutes then it become available, perfectly normal. Full EV mode is kinda fun and totally functional, despite only 15 mile range, the car seem to regen from deceleration and braking quite well without engine running and I have hard time getting electric range to go down unless I am doing prolonged freeway driving in ev mode.

Being able to change tach in different colors is kinda cool as well (Yellow, red, white, silver), sound system is also surprisingly good. Head up display is also pleasant surprise that helps me be aware of speed I am going while keeping my eyes on the road.

-Another noticeable difference is F8 has super low rear diffuser clearance. SF90 has more generous clearance in the back.

-Keyless is true keyless, you do not need to take out the key to unlock the car, just press door handle and it unlocks, auto locks if you walk away with key.

 

It is usable on the street for me, I enjoy it even when driving slow. However, if you are talking about enjoying the rev climb and let it rip like say a 458 or 992 GT3, no, it does not offer that kind of sensation.

I do have to short shift a lot, can't really stand on throttle for too long, it would hit 80mph or 100mph in instant if given anything over 50 to 100% throttle, I noticed that I am usually on brake almost immediately after I go WOT. It is amazing how it is possible to lay 1k hp down especially with PS4S tires.

When I had F8 and 992 Turbo S they too required short shift a lot as well, F8's weak point was traction (I actually use the power of F8 even less than SF90 for this reason), 992 Turbo S was the delay/pause off the line (everytime from standing still, from idle to 2500rpm takes a brief moment), so for me on the street (excluding storage and able to carry 2 kids) SF90 was more usable than F8 or 992 Turbo S due to how instant it is and traction, also ride is really comfortable, I have not felt the need to use bumpy mode yet in SF90, where in F8 I use bumpy mode a lot.

Because the car is also not loud at all, it is easy to do occassional brief hard acceleration without drawing too much attention. When I had louder cars such as Aventador SV, I find myself always drive quite slow to not make too much noise and attract unwanted attention.

 

I also have Model X Plaid currently and previously Taycan Turbo S, I like EVs as point A to B family car. However, they just plain dull and numb. Mainly due to lack of ability to shift through the gears and sound.

SF90 feels like ICE NA car with no lag or delays in qualifying and performance mode, while has same instant punch of Tesla from dead stop (without even using launch control) or while car is moving. If want it to feel like EV, it can as well in full EV mode. If reliability is not an unknown question mark, I would highly recommend nearly all hybrid sports/super cars from Artura, Temerario, Reveulto, SF90, 296, 992.2 GTS, etc.

 

It was you that recommended, thank you, it really made the car a lot more enjoyable on the daily basis.

 

That is interesting, can anyone else confirm this? I am at 2300 miles, so I won't know for a bit longer

 

Another thing I noticed, if I start car up in qualifying + race mode (must start it up in race, start in any other mode then switch to race won't work). The exhaust sounds way better once car is warmed up, most noticeable at lower cruising speed and deceleration, car is louder, I was kinda surprised, doesn't feel like lack exhaut sound or need valve controller any more. Maybe it is easter egg.

I drove 99% in sport mode for first 2 months as traction control is quite seamless and keeps the car well planted, I tried race mode a few times prior to PS4S tires, it was quite scary. PS4S allowed me to explore race mode with confidence.

Took me a while to get used to it, I always had very high HP cars, with F8 I was comfortable using all its power on first day even on Pirelli PZ4. SF90 took me 2 months and wasn't until I switched to PS4S.

 

I really really wish so, it would had saved me a set of 4 tires plus hassle. My SF90 came with factory Ferrari spec K-series cup 2 tires, not cup 2 R, only had 2k miles on them before I tossed them.

My driving is mostly street, zero track, I can't wait 15 to 20 minutes for them to warm up, by then I am almost at where I need to be, I have zero doubt that Cup2 will be fine during Summer or with extended warm up time. They just didn't work for me what so ever, rolling 3rd gear, floor it, tires would just spin, forget about even using 1st and 2nd gear. PS4S, very much once engine is warm 5 to 10 minutes in, it grips even in 1st gear.

• Warm-up Issues:
  The Pilot Sport Cup 2 requires a significant amount of heat to activate its grip, which can be difficult to achieve on the street. On a track, gentle warming and high pressures are recommended to prevent premature wear and delamination.

 

Thanks for recommendation, if they work for 765LT, they must be insanely grippy. I would love to pick up a set once they have size available for SF90.