Damn - another obstacle on my way to 458 ownership - the 570S spyder

Go on the mclaren life forums to see what type and how many issues current owners are having with the 570.

 

They are both great looking and driving cars....I had this dilemma at one time...I then relized there is nothing like owning and driving a ferrari...

Maybe consider a 458 Spider...

 

Given that your first choice a few years ago was the 570, you must have wanted that more, so I assume that somewhere in the background that desire must still exist, unless you've since been educated to the better of the two, the 458!

Jim

 

I owned an MP4-12C. Never again...

 

There is something about the 458 for sure. That's why I have had three of them. Trust your gut after driving both. The McLarens (even the 720S I test drove a few weeks ago) have never given me that feeling that driving the 458s give me.

Let us know if you decide on the 458. Otherwise, don't. lol

 

A true comparison would be the 458 Spider compared to the 570S spider, especially if you prefer a spider. Between the 2 cars, I find the 458 more engaging and exciting to drive. The exhaust note of the 458 is far more satisfying. Subjectively, the 458 is a more elegant design. The 570S is a very competent and fast car. It is very comfortable and compliant. For many, including me, it is excessively so.If you were interested in a daily driver, it would be a more appropriate choice. The thrills engendered by driving the 458 is noticeably enhanced over the 570S. The 570S does exhibit a bit of turbo lag, especially around 3K, while the N/A engine of the 458 is simply much more involving and so linear.

 

Well put. I'll put it another way. Except for jamming the throttle, the McLaren is a boring car. Buy a Jeep Trackhawk if you want a commuter vehicle that is fast.

 

I stopped when you said “I don’t want to miss out on the 570 while the price is right.”

McLaren 570 will continue to go down faster than will the Italia. The price will get righter and righter, no need to worry about that.

I sold the 720 and still have the Speciale if that helps. I’d never have bought the 570, whereas I did have an Italia coupe.

Lastly, naturally aspirated > turbo charged.

 

458 now and eventually 570S later if the desire doesn't fade. Prices on 570S will only go down.

 

For strictly weekends, get the italia (spider preferably).
I’m on my 3rd 458 variant and had a 650s briefly. Super quick car, but oh so boring and lacking sound.
The 458 is brilliant.
570s is a wonderful alternative.
But you will sell it in a year and get a 458.

 

Owned and eventually sold the 458 for a 12 cylinder car. Nice car but never turned me on. Service and quality on a Mac can be doggy but I had endless issues with my 458. In addition, depreciation on a Mac is not for the faint of heart. I drove a 570 and if you give it the gas to me it was very engaging and felt light and tossable. Overall more fun at normal diving speeds than a 458.
A true first world problem. You will smile either way.

 

Doc, what type of endless problems did you have on the 458? Not usually something I’ve seen on this side of the forums so curious to see what issues you ran into.

As far as values on 570, the “good deals” have yet to come, this car is going to depreciate far more and far quicker than the 458.

 

I'm glad I read this thread so I can now lose that Mac wonderment and remain focused on upgrading to a 458...

 

Th

Perhaps not if he's buying at the prices he says he is. A 570 Spider and a 2014 458 coupe shouldn't be that close in price, let alone the 570 cheaper. That means either the 570S is a bargain or the 458 overpriced. There are tons of 2014 458 coupes at $200K or less. I don't see many 570 Spiders are 200K. And he said the 570 is less...

 

Both are great if you dont care about the performance and want the more beautiful car then 458. 570 is more advanced technically which could be a plus or minus depending on the buyer. Problem wise they both have their issue, with the 458 be sure to check the transmission which has been troublesome and a major expense. 570 has some issues but not so much with the drivetrain. Either way get a warranty.

I think both cars are going to hold value relatively well especially the spiders. They have both come down quite a bit from new and have flattened out to some extent.

My choice would be a 458 spider. It is one of my favorite all time but you cant go wrong either way.

 

My issues included but were not limited to: leaking shock, faulty chassis weld, several trim fitment issues, computer reflashing to resolve transmission malfunction, delamination of interior trim pieces, brake pad issues, trunk latch failure. The car was a 2011.

 

Those are some serious issues, is this common for the 458?

 

Supposedly reliable cars. Guess mine was built when Guido and friends had a hangover.

 

If you are this uncertain, wait longer. This shouldn’t be that tough of a call, whichever one you choose, there is no wrong answer, just different answers. But there are so many differences, the choice shouldnt be that that hard. These cars aren’t about reason, value, or deals, these are about passion.

My comments aren’t meant to pick one over the other, only you should do that.

 

458 all the way... mclaren are a cool car and very fast but I would never buy one ... the styling of the Ferrari is the best in my opinion , driver engagement and engine sound ... game over!