Interesting project. I'm sure by now you know how extensive the damage really is or is not, and I will be following this to see how it unfolds. Good luck!
This is a scan from Pat Braden & Gerald Roush's book, page 137. Taken at European Auto Restoration's back yard in the 80's. It's really sad to see that. Maybe they have some left... Good luck with your project. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Your going to be kept busy for some time Chris. Dont give up, I am sure the end result will be worth it.
Yes , poor 2CV, I am sure no one wanted to save it,,, QUOTE=GIOTTO;141160704]This is a scan from Pat Braden & Gerald Roush's book, page 137. Taken at European Auto Restoration's back yard in the 80's. It's really sad to see that. Maybe they have some left... Good luck with your project.[/QUOTE]
I think one can also see the super skinny high performance heavy duty competition tyres........... Marcel Massini
But what do you think about all those Daytona parts? Are they still stored somewhere? My opinion is that it was a BIG mistake to do that.
I have an old article from those days when chop-tops were all the rage. Sheehan was keeping the tops in case the trend would reverse. I'll post it up later.
You have a very sad,sick sense of humour,Marcel..................................................... keep it up!!!
But Marcel spotted it was a one off, with the double emblem of Cavallino rampante (Prancing horse) and Canardo marchante ( Walking duck) hence his remark on it's specs.
To get us back on track..... Thank you to all posters so far for the tremendous support and encouragement that I am getting. Projects of this nature can be daunting and your support helps a great deal. I hope to post some more info soon. Thanks, Chris
Can I ask the UK forum members a question? Firstly, I apologise for the delay in posting some more but as you will realise, I have had some problems. My question is: If you took a Ferrari chassis to a recognised repairer of Ferrari chassis and it came back badly repaired, would you expect the repairer to have defective workmanship insurance cover. My repairer states that he does not have such cover. Chris
Don't give up, pal! This is a beautiful project... I bet that car will turn out great, and the pleasure you will get in return for saving it will be awesome as well! Talk about "bragging rights", huh? ;-) I'm on a similar project myself... http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=359739 It is a labour of love, as someone wisely said. To me, it is exactly what I've been wanting to do my whole life. It'll be long... it won't be easy... just keep that in mind in case you run into troubles or eskeptical people. As for your frame issues; tell me, are you able to get blueprints of your car's frame? In my own experience, there are many sources for information on the web, you just need to dig a bit... and keep digging for a while. eBay is also a good place to find "odd" information, such as original Factory blueprints (I know that 308s are fairly more common than Daytonas, but who knows...) If you can gather chassis info, you could build a frame jig yourself to straighten your car. That's my approach; I have a friend who owns an immaculate 308 to take measurements from and bought some factory blueprints from eBay. I also found some blueprints on the web for my car that I intend to use as reference. Anyways, if I can ever give you a hand with CAD files or something, just let me know. I wish you the best of lucks with your car! Daniel
Thank you for your kind words and support, they are greatly appreciated. I have read your 308 restoration thread and think that you have also taken on a huge project. You are very brave and I admire your grit and determination. Vincent Vangool has said on your thread "I don't think ANY ferrari should be lost or parted out" and I agree but as I had hinted at in an earlier post, I have had some problems with the repairs to my body/chassis. I took my chassis and new body parts to an internationally known Ferrari specialist here in the UK and two years later I got back something that, although it basically looks like a Daytona, in my opinion it has been completely hacked about and messed up. Original, good areas of the body/chassis have been completely destroyed and new (wrong) items substituted for perfectly good original parts, for example the front cockpit cross-member, which is now the wrong size profile. Having chopped up my original Scaglietti front clip, they mounted the indicators at the wrong angle. Parts such as fittings and brackets have been removed/lost and neither returned to me nor remade. Worst of all, the main oval tubes have been replaced with incorrect profile tubing which Ferrari, Italy have now confirmed is also made of a cheaper and wrong steel alloy.
That's terrible to hear. I guess from your earlier post you're considering some kind of legal redress against the specialist in question?
OMG! Those are awful news, pal! I can't believe that someone with a good reputation would do that!! Specially to such a beautiful car!!! Do you have pictures of the damage? Are you still planning to save the car? What will your next move be?
I think you need to find another 'expert' to inspect your chassis and write a detailed report. You then use that to open negotiations with the repairer. Hopefully you come to some kind of arrangement before getting to court. I doubt any business would have insurance cover for doing a crap job.
I lived 5 minutes from this yard in the 70's and 80's you could see this plainly thru the chain link fence when driving down Superior ave in the city of Costa Mesa ca..at the time it was no big deal and we wondered why they bothered keeping those old roof clips..at the time the local californians wanted spyders(very difficult to get early on) daytona coupes were more plentiful(even though you never saw one sit on the showroom floor at Newport Sports Cars (the local Ferrari dealer only 2 miles or so from this photo)..i worked at the Alfa dealer(Beach Imports) one mile south of the Ferrari dealer on PCH in 1972 thru 74 so we saw the mechanics doing the PDI (pre delivery inspections) on the new Ferraris when they came in..they drove straight down PCH (pacific coast hiway) in newport beach testing the cars before delivery, we saw very few of anything (daytona ,GTC/4 or Dino) the only car i remember seeing sitting on the showroom for any length of time was the C/4..i went in to apply for a salesmans job in 74 and saw one of the last 246gts in the back that was sold(window sticker was $14K and change) i remember walking in to the Ferrari show room and picking up a broshure with a Daytona on it i taped it to the wall above my bed ( i still have it somewhere with edges torn off from the tape..little did i know my dream of owning a daytona would come true some 26 years latter..still have the car now after owning it for 13 years with NO intention of selling!..funny how time changes some things and not others Chuck
Here are some photos of the damage showing "new" oval tubes with flats on the sides, short bonnet (new oversize skin and new oversize original frame supplied by me), huge thickness of bondo filler, indicators pointing down to ground. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Oh, boy! That's a really crappy job he did on your car! Unbelievable, really... I've seen similar jobs performed to rotting brazilian volkswagens, for about 50 bucks... and still wouldn't put up with them! Did you get any refund whatsoever? I believe that, if you fail to reach an agreement with this guy, you should post a thread commenting the quality of the job, in order to advice other forum members considering this guy for a restoration in the future. So sad... you will still go ahead with the project, though, right? It would be such a pitty to see this car go to waste for something like this! Don't give up!