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Daytona Spider For Sale

Discussion in 'Vintage Ferrari Market' started by jbsmooth1, Mar 28, 2005.

  1. jbsmooth1

    jbsmooth1 Karting

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  2. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    This car has been for sale for years. The color doesn't do it for me. It seems to be sale proof or at least not bring anywhere near what the buyer wants. It's been offered by many NY dealers. Maybe they think someone on the WC will step up but I wouldn't.
     
  3. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    I agree the color is off and the car is somewhat of an odd ball: The front turn signals are Euro, the rest of the car is US spec. Also it looks as if it is missing the driver side mirror. Why they set such a high reserve is beyond me.
     
  4. jbsmooth1

    jbsmooth1 Karting

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    I agree with you all about the color. I guess im still too much of a noob to have picked up on those subtle nuances- well, i ll learn new things every day!
     
  5. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Here's another one for you: The front treatment is indicative of the earliest spiders: The pop up lamps and the section in between is painted and reminds of the plexi Berlinettas. Later models had this section painted in body color.

    Maybe therein lies the answer to the high reserve/price: This car is somewhat unique in the evolution from the Berlinetta to the Spider to the US version of the Spider.

    Note the rear reflector at the end, that is clearly US spec.
     
  6. jbsmooth1

    jbsmooth1 Karting

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    Wow, your knowledge puts me to shame :(...and i thought i knew a fair amount about Ferrari's. Well, at least it ll all come to me if I hang around here for a few months!
     
  7. Edward 96GTS

    Edward 96GTS F1 Rookie

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    And it has Euro knockoffs.
     
  8. Edward 96GTS

    Edward 96GTS F1 Rookie

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    Jim,
    Are you sure this is the same one Tony P. has had for sale? I think that one was brown/tan whereas this one is bronze.
    Ed
     
  9. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Ok, time for me to learn something: What is the difference?
     
  10. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    "Marrone Metallic" 1400 miles? I think it's the one that several NY dealer's have been trying to sell for years.
     
  11. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Winged KO's aren't US legal after 1967. They must have nuts. Spinning KO's were ruled to be too dangerous to pedistrians and other cars.
     
  12. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ

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    14383 is the first US Daytona Spyder (second one to touch US soil)... This is not the marrone Daytona Spyder everyone's thinking of... This car hasn't been for sale in ages...

    The marrone one is S/N 17013 and has been for sale in 1986, 1999 (2x), 2000, 2002 (2x), 2003 (2x), 2004 (2x) and has been seen in a bunch of different places with a bunch of different people...

    One of the cool things Gerald pointed out to me about 14383 is that the data plate on the steering column says 365 GTB/4 (which Ferrari did on all the US Daytona Spyders), but another data plate, elsewhere on the car, says 365 GTS/4...
     
  13. bill365

    bill365 F1 Rookie

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    Everbody has heard of the incredibly high numbers of maimings and deaths caused by winged KO's. It's amazing that they let them come into the states for as long as they did!!! :D
     
  14. YellowMurci

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    I am the high bidder as of now - I wonder what they are trying to get for it
     
  15. Edward 96GTS

    Edward 96GTS F1 Rookie

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    NNO,
    Thanks for clarifying the two cars. Now, what is the official color of the ebay car(bronze) vs the other car(brown) you mentioned?
    Ed
     
  16. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Finizioni esterna marrone; finizioni interna beige...


    This information (and earlier information) was provided by the Ferrari Market Letter. :)
     
  17. Edward 96GTS

    Edward 96GTS F1 Rookie

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    NNO,
    Translated means?
     
  18. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Um, my rough interpretation would be as follows:

    Externally finished in marrone; internally finished in beige...
     
  19. Edward 96GTS

    Edward 96GTS F1 Rookie

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    NNO,
    OK, now which car are we talking about? The ebay car is bronze/black.
    bronze car=?marrone?
    what is the brown called officially?
    Ed
     
  20. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ

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    17013; NOT the one on eBay...

    Yes, the eBay car, 14383, is Nocciola with a Nero interior... i once heard it referred to as "Fong" gold...

    The other car, 17013, is marrone, which sort of looks like a dark brown...

    Marrone "Dino" Metallizzato, 106-M-73...
     
  21. Edward 96GTS

    Edward 96GTS F1 Rookie

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  22. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Ed, it was my pleasure, but like i said, all of this info came from the FML... i can assure you, i wouldn't know any of this on my own... :)
     
  23. whart

    whart F1 Veteran
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    Is that that Fukin Marrone spider with almost no miles again! First it was offered by owner, then it went to some NY dealer or two on consignment, then it was up at Paradise Garage in Limerock for sale, then i forgot who offered it next. (Did autosport designs have it for a while, and what about Nick Corleone, i mean, soprano?)
    It's probably a nice car, but i'd take the black one at WW if i was going to overpay for a GTS.
     
  24. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134797202&postcount=12

    Pete :)
     
  25. Edward 96GTS

    Edward 96GTS F1 Rookie

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    Is there a link to the black spyder at WW?
     

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