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Daytona Spyder Seat Belts

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  1. 410SA

    410SA F1 Veteran

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    I have one of a very few Euro factory Spyders (S/N 14415). Among the differences from US cars it lacks A/C and seat belts.
    Having driven cars all my life with belts, it feels weird to be in an open, powerful sports car without seat belts. I would like to install seat belts, but will only do so if I can fit correct Daytona equipment. I assume that all Daytonas had mounting points in the same place.
    I would appreciate any info re availability of belts and also the correct mounting points.
     
  2. shill288

    shill288 Formula Junior

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    Send me a PM and I'll get you squared away.

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  3. IanB

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    410SA, I note that your car is on the registry at daytonaregistry.com The Originality page will show you the correct belts, which are different to a coupe. All countries in Europe required belts in 1971, you will find the mounting points under the transmission tunnel and behind the seats.

    I have 14397, originally a UK coupe, build no. 559. I'd be interested to know the build number of your car (when you take a door trim off its written on the back) as it must be very close, within 8 cars.

    btw Our cars have other safety issues, no roll-over protection and almost no side-impact protection - these are features that make you concentrate on defensive driving! I also run original spec XWX tyres, the cars grip limit is reached and transmitted at lower speeds so you're less likely to end up inverted. Despite this, I have no trouble keeping up with "modern" Ferraris on brisk open road runs.
     
  4. synchro

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    I get a LOT of sidewall flex when I drive my new Coker XWX tires at high speed on sweeping turns. It is a bit unnerving.
     
  5. shill288

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    I've been running the Michelin XWX 215/70 VR 15, Pirelli P4000 215/70 ZR 15, Pirelli P600 235/60 WR 15 and Yokohama AV60i 235/60 VR 15 tyres on my various Daytonas. For spirited driving, the Yokohama's are the best, but are no longer made. (I chased a M5 around a cloverleaf in a 69 Daytona Coupe with the Yokohamas. I never knew how well a Daytona can stick with good tyres.) The Pirelli P600 in the same size is next. Followed by the the original XWXs. The Pirelli P4000 tyres, in my opinion, are junk. I use that set as a "roller" set for cars being wheeled around the garage. I also used to use various Michelin's in the 255/60 VR 15, 235/60 VR 15 and 215/70 VR 15 sizes until they were no longer available as well.

    Steve
     
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    #7 shill288, Aug 31, 2006
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    Attached are pictures of correct Klippan belts out of a Dec 1971 build date USA Daytona Spyder. These are the non-interia (non-retractable) type belts used before 1972. You'll notice the difference in how the belts are mounted to the floor. Starting in 1972, the DOT required that lap belts be retractable and a shoulder belts must be retractable or adjustable (Ferrari's approach). These are shown in the previous picture.

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  8. IanB

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    How high is the speed? I have Michelin-built XWX's and I can't feel anything untoward in the 70-80mph cornering I've done. Could it be that the sidewall construction or stiffness of the Cokers is different?
     

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