Gatorade Duel 150 on SPEED Race 1 | Daytona International Speedway | February 14, 2008 Race 1 Results Pos. Driver Start No. Mfg. Led Completed Status Pts/Bonus Money 1 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 5 #88 Chevrolet 25 60 running 0/0 $53,970 2 Reed Sorenson 18 #41 Dodge 2 60 running 0/0 $38,970 3 Ryan Newman 9 #12 Dodge 13 60 running 0/0 $33,970 4 Casey Mears 3 #5 Chevrolet 0 60 running 0/0 $28,970 5 Carl Edwards 15 #99 Ford 2 60 running 0/0 $26,970 6 Bobby Labonte 23 #43 Dodge 0 60 running 0/0 $24,570 7 Juan Pablo Montoya 19 #42 Dodge 0 60 running 0/0 $23,470 8 Kenny Wallace 11 #187 Chevrolet 0 60 running 0/0 $22,470 9 Sam Hornish Jr. 20 #77 Dodge 0 60 running 0/0 $22,445 10 Paul Menard 16 #15 Chevrolet 1 60 running 0/0 $22,420 11 Brian Vickers 6 #83 Toyota 0 60 running 0/0 $22,395 12 Joe Nemechek 2 #78 Chevrolet 5 60 running 0/0 $22,370 13 AJ Allmendinger 7 #84 Toyota 0 60 running 0/0 $22,345 14 Martin Truex Jr. 17 #1 Chevrolet 2 60 running 0/0 $22,320 15 Scott Riggs 8 #66 Chevrolet 2 60 running 0/0 $22,295 16 Bill Elliott 22 #21 Ford 0 60 running 0/0 $22,270 17 Regan Smith 10 #01 Chevrolet 0 60 running 0/0 $22,245 18 Clint Bowyer 21 #07 Chevrolet 0 60 running 0/0 $22,195 19 Boris Said 4 #160 Ford 0 60 running 0/0 $22,170 20 Jeremy Mayfield 12 #70 Chevrolet 0 60 running 0/0 $22,145 21 Sterling Marlin 25 #109 Chevrolet 0 60 running 0/0 $22,095 22 Elliott Sadler 14 #19 Dodge 0 60 running 0/0 $22,070 23 Jimmie Johnson 1 #48 Chevrolet 8 60 running 0/0 $22,020 24 Carl Long 27 #08 Dodge 0 59 running 0/0 $21,995 25 J.J. Yeley 26 #96 Toyota 0 59 running 0/0 $21,970 26 Kyle Petty 24 #45 Dodge 0 59 running 0/0 $21,945 27 Kurt Busch 13 #2 Dodge 0 9 electrical 0/0 $21,920 Race 2 (60 of 60 laps completed) Pos. Driver Starting Pos. Car No. / Mfg. 1 Tony Stewart 8 #20 / Toyota 2 Denny Hamlin 5 #11 / Toyota 3 Jeff Gordon 6 #24 / Chevrolet 4 Kasey Kahne 18 #9 / Dodge 5 Mark Martin 12 #8 / Chevrolet 6 Dale Jarrett 14 #44 / Toyota 7 Kevin Harvick 21 #29 / Chevrolet 8 David Ragan 9 #6 / Ford 9 Michael Waltrip 1 #55 / Toyota 10 David Reutimann 2 #00 / Toyota 11 David Gilliland 13 #38 / Ford 12 Kyle Busch 20 #18 / Toyota 13 Greg Biffle 15 #16 / Ford 14 John Andretti 25 #34 / Chevrolet 15 Travis Kvapil 4 #28 / Ford 16 Matt Kenseth 10 #17 / Ford 17 Robby Gordon 17 #7 / Dodge 18 Ken Schrader 22 #49 / Dodge 19 Patrick Carpentier 7 #10 / Dodge 20 Eric McClure 19 #137 / Chevrolet 21 Dave Blaney 3 #22 / Toyota 22 Jeff Burton 24 #31 / Chevrolet 23 Jacques Villeneuve 11 #27 / Toyota 24 Jamie McMurray 16 #26 / Ford 25 Stanton Barrett Jr. 26 #150 / Chevrolet 26 Dario Franchitti 23 #40 / Dodge
Yep, Said, Carpentier and Villenueve are out... D@mn! WHEN are thy going to fix this stupid rule and fix it so you qualify on SPEED, not some arcane gold-old-boy owner/points formula... It was a crime when Boris earned pole before being rained out... He couldn't GO so he had to GO HOME. A crime...
I agree 100% The fastest should stay, if you're not fast enough, you go home regardless if you we're a past/present champ or not.
I couldn't watch it all but JV ran up front, moving up in the beginning. 5th at one point. Carpentier was fastest in practice and ran well till whatever happened. This will be interesting. If the good old boys thought a Toyota win would be reckoning day. Wait till they see 3 new open wheel guys do what Montoya did.
Can't understand some of these comments. Daytona has two qualifying races. If you do not get the front row, you have to run these races and hope you know how to draft well enough to make the big race. Qualifying for the first 40 positions has nothing to do with "archane good old boy rules". Daytona qualifying is the hardest of all. Speed isn't everything. Running in competition is. The guys that didn't make it, don't deserve to be in the show. Franchitti, Villeneuve, even Boris, don't deserve to be in the race. They didn't have the ability to run at speed in the draft. Better luck next time. And Michael, Montoya hasn't proved a thing, except that he is an ass. If he was as good as he thinks he is, he would have won by now. I really doubt that any of the open wheeled guys will prove anything this year either. Except that they realize they are in a much different, much more difficult game now. Some of you underestimate NASCAR drivers,and what it takes to drive a superspeedway. Driving, drafting, a 4000 pound tank at 200mph takes a lot of skill. Especially when that draft is not only nose to tail, but side to side. Carpentier, Hornish, Villeneuve, Franchitti, they are not even close in skill to the likes of Jeff Gordan, Johnson, Tony Stewart, even Earnhardt Jr.
The cars which finished last season in the top 35 places only need to enter to be qualified for the 500. Whether its fair or not, those are the rules, therefore qualifying is actually only necessary for the 8 or less (due to a past champions provisional rule) places left on the grid. Although Franchitti finished last in his race, his team cleverly worked the system and he is in the field due to these rules, rules which I believe are unique to Nascar. What I take issue with is the ability for teams to use their pre-qualified cars as blockers in these races to ensure an unqualified team mate is 'protected'. With 35/36 cars already in the 500 without having to turn a wheel, you'd think Nascar would, at the very least, allow the 'go or go home' entrants to run their own race. With the new entrants this year, I would have enjoyed watching that more than the 500.
Montoya DID win a Nextel (now Sprint) car race in his rookie year, and finished in the top 20 for the year in 2007 with a second-tier organization. Time to give him some credit.
Ron, Isobel succinctly describes the good ole boy part. Especially the team blocking part. The open wheel guys not having the skills of your heroes? JV, DF and Carpentier have been at this for about 4 months. We will see. But at least Mr. Earnhart appears to be enjoying his new home.
Daytona has a unique qualifying format. The team play really only happens here and at Talledega, and will be less of a factor come Sunday than in the Duels. The Top 35 thing has been controversial over the past few years, but the bottom line is that people come to see their favorite drivers, and this is just a way to make sure the popular drivers will be in the race. Frankly, nobody in the traditional fanbase cares if the open wheel guys make it into the 500. Beginning next week there are more speed-based spots available, and if your guys are good enough they will be in the top 35 when the lock-in shifts to current season points in the 6th week.
Agreed. Ron, I appreciate your point of view, but the fact that they are going to change qualifying towards a meritochratic (working on my BSLspeak ) system based solely on time is the correct and just thing to do. They've got to move away from the WWF way of doing things on Speedway Boulevard...
Source? Cite? I haven't heard anything about this, and follow NASCAR closely -- but only have fan-level knowledge. They used to run just based on speed, but the team owners wanted some intangibles that gave their operations value beyond the cars and buildings. The franchise idea was shot down (thank goodness), but this helped with both that issue and the problem when popular drivers failed to make the race. Personally, I think the fastest cars should go, but that doesn't mean the open wheel guys would have qualified. The locked-in teams were working on their race setups, not qualifying ones.
Very odd statement. Openwheel racing is very different from nascar and requires a different skill set it probably a better way to put it.
Tifosiron, Your post makes no sense. Are you being sarcastic? You are one post away from 9k. Quality is better than quantity. Dario did make it. He did win by now. As a Rookie. Tony Stewart won the IRL Championship and he won the NASCAR Championship. Once again, Tony Stewart was the IRL champ. I don't like the format becasue if you are fast but someone else hits you and takes you out, you go home.
Witness Villenueve, Carpentier. It's the luck of the draw rather than talent. Remnds me of the RunOffs...
Daytona Beach, FL (AHN) - NASCAR took another small step toward attaining equality in its premier series, the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series, which was formerly known as the Nextel Cup Series. On Monday NASCAR opted to change its qualifying procedure to allow those teams outside of the top-35 in owners points a more level playing field. Currently the top-35 teams in the owners points are locked into the race's 43-car field each week. Those outside of the top-35 must try to qualify their way into the remaining eight spots. Last season there was a blind draw, which would allow teams outside of the top-35 to qualify at all different times of the day or night - which could be advantageous or disadvantageous depending on the conditions. This season all of those outside of the top-35 will take to the qualifying grid at the same time of day or night. "I think letting all of us outside the top 35 go out at the end of the session helps even out the playing field. The guys in the top 35 are qualifying to determine where they start. Guys like me are qualifying to determine if they start. Trust me, our Valvoline team is really focusing on making these races. Before we can race we have to qualify,'' said Patrick Carpentier, driver of the No. 10 Dodge. "Now we know we aren't going to miss or make the show because of track temperatures or where we draw in the qualifying order. We are all going out when the track is about the same. NASCAR is trying to make things as fair as it can, and that's something I am always going to support."
Oh, that. Old news, they were talking about implementing that during this past off-season. Far cry from a return to speed-based qualifying.
I was not being sarcastic at all. I just do not agree with the complaints about the method of qualifying at Daytona. And I truly believe it is harder to drive a NASCAR car around an oval than it is to drive an open wheeled car, say IRL, around the same track. Montoya won a race last year by running into his teammate. Again, he proved nothing. Tillman, considering his background, I give him little or no credit for anything. So far. The point I am making is that many people look down at NASCAR and have no idea of the driving skill it actually takes to be successful in that series. Along comes some open wheeled driver, and people are complaining about the method of qualifying as if these drivers should magically be kings of NASCAR. Montoya proved one thing, just because you come from F1, you are not going to automatically appear on the podium. I like the way they do qualifying at Daytona. The Twin 150's require real driver skill. They require real driver and crew calculation to be at the front at the end. These races are beter than the 500 itself because the drivers are desparate to get in to the main event. If you get knocked out, well that's racing. Besides, these races are great for the fan. That is the most important perspective. As for Tony Stewart, and also Jeff Gordan, these two are probably the best in NASCAR, yes they both came from open wheel racing, but they have driving skills that Montoya, Franchitti, Villeneuve, Hornish, Carpentier, etc, do not have. No comparison at all. A slim Tony Stewart along with Jeff Gordan could have been successful in any racing series, even F1.
Ron, It was the Busch race in Mexico where JPM booted his teammate Pruett, who was in the way. JPM won at Sonoma in the Nextel Cup, which used to be the Winston Cup, which is now the Somthing Sprint Cup. I don't think you are alone here in understanding how these cars work. I could go on, but I won't.
