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  1. JohnCJMorgan

    JohnCJMorgan Karting

    Nov 28, 2013
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    This Vallelunga was supposedly used in hill climbs as a factory racer. It has due to records been hard to confirm. Features the gas lid out of hood and wide body. There were a few that were built after to these specs, flares etc. we have one but it was not original and converted back prior to purchase.
     
  2. prototypefan

    prototypefan Formula Junior

    Dec 23, 2005
    396
    ab, canada
    I believe this to be a car that has gained or suffered from "I saw it in print so it must be true" or "I read it on the internet....it must be true".

    Documents would be required in order to carry the claims that follow the car. If it raced in period then someone somewhere must have pics or documents. I'm not aware of these ever existing.

    I looked through my photo archives from Rob De La Rive Box and factory press photos......there are many pics but none of this car.

    It is possibly a story that followed the car after the ownership in SoCal many years ago.
     
  3. prototypefan

    prototypefan Formula Junior

    Dec 23, 2005
    396
    ab, canada
    Antonio,
    The car was in the UK when I purchased a pair of Vallelunga prototypes in 2009.
    Best, Fred
     
  4. velocetwo

    velocetwo F1 World Champ

    Dec 11, 2006
    12,545
    Left Coast
    There was a guy who ran the San Francisco art design studio that had one, maybe it was his.
     
  5. 121Designer

    121Designer Formula Junior

    Aug 15, 2013
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    Burbank,California
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    Joshua Lange
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    We know Tom Meade used some of those De.... chassis parts on T II. Great car. PS... I was lead builder on Thomassima IIII. Yes. Tom was one of the greatest designers of all time. Fantuzzi taught him and he flew. Tom and I worked side by side for over three years on his amazing supercar. An amazing mind and talent who Enzo gave 45 precious minutes with while testing the T II. The kings got much less time with Enzo. RIP my friend!
     
  6. bitzman

    bitzman F1 Rookie
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    I met him only in the last few years of his life, went over to Westwood to meet in front of his favorite coffee shop a couple of times He would tell me stories of cars he owned in the past, but when he told me he had a shop where 2 or 3 cars were being built but that the cars were "secret" I lost interest in visiting him. I have no patience with people who have this or that "secret." Were these last projects all a pipe dream or was something still being built that we enthusiasts might hope to see the light of day? By the way he lived in a sort of "man cave" apartment (I couldn't see any door to it, just an opening with a bamboo curtain) that was under a two story apartment house in a busy part of Westwood by UCLA. I got the impression it was an illegal apartment built out of storage space. I never asked him about the three Ferrari chassis he claimed were stolen from him in recent years that he had stored in another apartment building nearby under the building. I called the West LA police dept. to ask for verification of his story and the lady who answered said that they were not investigating it.
     
  7. JohnCJMorgan

    JohnCJMorgan Karting

    Nov 28, 2013
    50
    Ohio
    Interesting. Another alloy.
     
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  9. JohnCJMorgan

    JohnCJMorgan Karting

    Nov 28, 2013
    50
    Ohio
    Wonder where it is now. Thought there were only three alloy coupes.
     
  10. crossram

    crossram Rookie

    Apr 18, 2013
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    What a find!
     
  11. 1turbobrick

    1turbobrick Karting

    Nov 29, 2011
    153
    Calgary, Alberta
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    Dale W
    The pictures are from 1981. This wouldn't be one of the three?
     
  12. JohnCJMorgan

    JohnCJMorgan Karting

    Nov 28, 2013
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    Ohio
    In an article about VL1601 D. (Had to go check) It states 3 prototype , 5 Cometiziones with 130hp, then the 50 glass cars. I may be mistaken on the three.
     
  13. 1turbobrick

    1turbobrick Karting

    Nov 29, 2011
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    Dale W
    Interesting tail lights on this one...
     
  14. JohnCJMorgan

    JohnCJMorgan Karting

    Nov 28, 2013
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    Ohio
    Was noticing that earlier. Obviously had issues when it ran.
     
  15. MRG22

    MRG22 Formula Junior

    Oct 19, 2010
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    Mike Gulett
  16. JohnCJMorgan

    JohnCJMorgan Karting

    Nov 28, 2013
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    Ohio
    116 being brought back next to 125
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  17. PONTECCIO MARCONI

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    #119 PONTECCIO MARCONI, Apr 3, 2014
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  20. DenisC

    DenisC Formula 3

    Oct 11, 2009
    1,132
    Potenccio, Congrats on saving the Valleleunga. Hopefully we will get to see the evolution of the restoration.

    I was always told the Mangusta was a 'lengthened' version of the Valleleunga, but from what I see similar but definitely not the same at all (the tunnel is totally different and the rear frame/engine cage/ engine, transaxle mounts are totally different) . Quick question, most (if not all) tubing on the Mangusta is folded over metal not profiles. Is it the same on a Valleleunga?

    Best

    D
     
  21. JohnCJMorgan

    JohnCJMorgan Karting

    Nov 28, 2013
    50
    Ohio
    The Mangusta was a revised version reinforced. The Vallelunga was hollow square tube in all the rear and front. The central spine was a folded square "U" with I believe 6 diagonal hollow tubes spaced inside. A bottom plate with two longitudinal rectangles (for pluming routing) capped off the bottom and welded.
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    Vallelunga frame^
     
  22. DenisC

    DenisC Formula 3

    Oct 11, 2009
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    There are for sure similarities, the Valleleunga tunnel looks like it is tapered and all attachments are tubular and/or profiles made in a foundry. The Mangusta on the other hand is a square piece and has all hand folded tubes.

    Keep the pictures coming!
     
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