Dear 458 & 997.2 GT3 RS owners

To keep the conversation going, have you guys seen this?

 

I always cringe when I hear the letter Z, pronounced as Zed.

 

Love this video. Unsure why they didn't put the 458 on the track though. Did the owner not want them to? Would the 458 lose too bady?

If I had the cash a 991.2 or 992 GT3 6sp would definitely be a stable mate with my 458. Both excellent cars.

 

458 was a dealer car. That's probably why they didn't take it to the track.

 

The rest of the English speaking world cringes when it is pronounces as Zee...

 

But it rhymes!

Q R S T U V
W X Y (and) Z

 

English alphabet (okay, Roman), English rules! By "English", I mean that it originated in England.

 

How do you pronounce Zoo? Zeod?

Is zenith pronounced zedenith?

Zip is Zedip?

Zucchini is zedchini?

 

You are deeply confused. The letter is called "zed". It is pronounces as "z" (not "zed", nor "zee").
What is zucchini? Ah, you must mean courgette.

 

What are your thoughts on a gated F430? With all the competition on the conversion front, you can easily buy an F430 + swap it for less than a 997.2 RS / 991.2 GT3

 

I had 2011 gt3 rs that i put 30k miles on as daily driver very fun car. I love my F8 as a short drive car, not good for road trips as the car is to delicate. My gt3rs was a tank the ferrari more of work of Art.

 

I agree with others stating get what you truly want and are comfortable with. A 458 and 997 GT3 are extremely different…I actually don’t find many things to compare. Last weekend I had the F430 and my buddy’s GT3 out. Both are amazing cars but extremely different. Try to drive both and see what you are looking for. If manual is must, you know your answer then. Be aware that the 997 GT3 trans is very engaging but notchy. Clutch is heavy but communicative. Both cars have their faults and will need maintenance to address. Research on Rennlist as well.

What would I choose? The 458. With a proper exhaust, it is a very exciting road car. But I’m a Ferrari guy who also enjoys Porsche. Maybe get both! (Cayman R and F430)

Enjoy the hunt!


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I am fortunate to run an Aqua Blue 7.2 3RS and an NART Blue 458 Speciale. I can't speak exactly to the 458 Normale but I'll add my 2 cents. Both of them are in the exact sweet spot for their respective marques.

This particular RS (2010,2011) is, for me and many others, the absolute high point of 911 development. The perfect sweet spot of connection, size, speed, sound. Everything 991 and after may be faster, but the sense of challenge and connection in this generation is the best there is. The market reflects this and good 7.2s are now into the mid 300k range. a very low mileage Aqua/Red car just became the first of this generation outside the 4.0s to break $400k. EVO magazine called this exact car the greatest drivers car of all time! Tiny production numbers really help here. Fewer of these than Speciale, let alone the 458. I have seen Ferrari owners refer to Porsche 911s as Porsche Corollas (as opposed to Carreras), but I've never had a lot of patience for that attitude.

The Speciale finished second to the Porsche in that EVO article and there really isn't a speck of difference in the driving pleasure of the two. Porsche feels like the end of an era and the Ferrari the beginning. of a new one, as if they were a full generation apart. The Ferrari glides over bumps, the Porsche thumps. When you make this choice, you are really choosing how hard you want to work for your thrills. I don't enjoy the attention the Speciale gets as much as some do. But it is essentially the perfect supercar. Newer Ferraris are faster, but the Speciale is, for me the greatest modern Ferrari.

You pays your money, and takes your pick....

 

After you get all your replies here go over to Rennlist.com and ask the same question on the 997 GT3 forum.

 

yes red white 3.8

 

I have two 997.2 3RS and a Speciale and a 458CH. Since your question is base 458, I would not select that. The 997.2 3RS all day over a base 458.

The Speciale? Glad I don’t have to decide. End of the day I’d perhaps select the Speciale but I have two 3RS so then again, maybe not. Road feel in the ‘11 3RS is sublime. The Speciale perhaps I select the Pista to drive more often these days.

 

I'd base my decision on how much attention I care to deal with on a day to day basis. With the Ferrari putting around will be an event and illicit lots of attention. The Porsche not so much.

It is for this exact reason that I swapped my Lamborghini Huracan 610-4 for a 991.2 Turbo S. I can put around in the Turbo without anyone really batting an eye and that was the draw for me. I bring the 488 when I don't mind garnering some attention.

You can't go wrong either way. Make a decision soon and get to enjoying as we aren't getting any younger.

Cheers!


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The 3.8 is a great car, cost much more than a 458, now.


The gt3rs is nothing like a gt3, its a car thar gas perfect balance and steering feel like a skate board but slower straight

 

I have a 458 and just sold my GT3 992 manual. I loved the GT3 and here's the but.......it was really more of a track car. Precise steering and a lot of punch were its positives. A little too rough riding for normal daily driving IMHO. The 458, on the other hand, is just an exciting drive every time you get behind the wheel. The perfect balance of horsepower joined with a dual clutch transmission that feels engaging like a manual without the fuss. I did replace the GT3 with a Porsche 911 (991.1) manual which is so much more suitable for the daily drives. No regrets.