Debating a 430 scud or doing some work to my porsche..numbers.

I would consider the following before making an emotional decision based on your passion for tracking: Most likely at your age, the insurance will be out the roof. Tracking the Scud will be more expensive that tracking the Cayman. You might consider consulting/speaking to some of the mechanics at Ferrari dealers who have worked on the Ferrari driver's Experience cars. They will be in a position to tell you want components are most likely to fail. Heat is not a Scud's friend out on the track.

 

If I were in your position, I'd look into doing up the Cayman and thinkin of a Scud down the road. If you track often and hard, I can imagine you'd burn up 75k pretty quickly if you tracked the Scud hard. Tires, brakes, upgrades to deal with the track. The carbon brakes aren't cheap. And the track Cayman sounds cool.

 

i'd look at a 997.1 GT3RS.. in green. I think those are in a range that will holdup over the next couple of years and going forward. Cheers- it's nice to not lose on fun... it can be done easily in porsches. I don't own a ferrari.. 997.1TT

 

fuxk it then get SCUD! I was looking at a 360CS last week that sold quickly to an Fchat member. If you know what you want you have to be quick.

 

From a financial point of view, doing more work on the Porsche would mean money down the drain, because you can never expect to recover the money that you spend modifying the car.
Here is where the Scuderia makes more financial sense.
Say if you spend £120.000 getting one, you would get around £90.000 or so back in 3 years.
The big plus is that the cudos of driving the Ferrari rather than the Porsche is greater, and that is said with great respect to Porsche ( I have owned 4 in the past and will definitely buy another in the future).

 

I have a 2014 cayman s , also had a 2008 scud. Imo get a new cayman and do the 3.8 dfi transplant and make it a full on track car or get a dedicated interseries race cayman. I would not track the scud for fear of losing the car. 70 k car vs 180 k car. Plus scud upkeep after track duty is higher, new cayman pdk is fantastic. Cayman wet dual clutch , dont have to worry about clutch wear , brake pads and tires are cheaper etc. Scud will still be a faster track car but a 2900 lbs 430 hp cayman s with pdk will be no slouch. It will be in gt3 territory or faster.

Cayman s is one of the best handling cars ever , i owned 997.2 gt3 before. Cayman needs extra tq. Scud is the most exciting road car out there. 3.8 dfi cayman plus scud road car is about as good it can get.

 

Do you race TT or W2W?
If you just want a track beast that will have nimble handling, and fast times, buy an Elise, and throw on a Rev400 blower on it, with triple adjustables....you'll be faster than any street production car on track. It'll cost you well under $50k for this outfit. Then save the rest of your $ and buy a Scud for sure!

 

+1. Most def.

 

This sounds like the best option to me.

 

Agree! I would keep the CaymanS and keep it as a dedicated track car. In the future, then buy your Scud. Good luck with your decision.

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At the Monticello Motor Club, Cayman Intersereis cars lap the track at 2:31 with members behind the wheel. I beleive the Scud laps that track at around 2:32-2:33 with a cpable member drive behind the wheel.

An Interseries Cayman has 340 HP. If you want to track the car hard, the Cayman is the way to go. Full roll cage, Stoptech front racing brakes with large rotors, a diff cooler and additional oil cooling, aero wing, etc. The Scud will never hold up under heavy track use and if you hit or anythign breaks, you are out big dollars.

 

Well I went through a 3.4L swap in my Boxster netting 344 HP (stock was 200HP) on a 2800 lb car. It was much more effort than originally planned, taking 7 weeks of engine out, then about 1 year to get all details sorted. Now I have one of the fastest Boxsters around, and who really cares. Not many.

I have always kept a ferrari around, well at least the last 20 years or so, so mine was not a Hop-Up the porsche Vs Ferrari choice.

But here is my advice; If you want 450hp track car, then buy one. Like you said, you will never get your money back out your +75k mods to the Porsche. Trust me I have a VERY expensive Boxster that is not worth much.

As far as you "never selling the cayman", I am afraid you are far too young to make that statement with any accuracy.

 

I have been considering getting a SCUD for the last few weeks and that car has been on my radar do not know much about it other what the dealer will tell you but looks to be a decent deal.. .. best of luck..

 

That's a great deal on a '09 with that low of miles IMO.

 

agreed the price is nice.. and it is probably a great deal..

 

I had to leave my car at the dealers yesterday as the only Ferrari mechanic could not get in to work. The gave me a 2014 Cayman (not the S) as a loaner and all I can say is that transmission is wonderful. The changes are almost instantaneous and so smooth you can only tell it's changed by the drop in revs.
Alan

 

best of luck I could not get this link to work but post pictures when you can...

 

I did my motor swap in 2000 on a 1997 Boxster. The largest engine back then OEM was a 3.2 Boxster S with far less HP and TQ than the 3.4L from a 911. The new 3.4L boxsters can just barely keep up with mine because they have put on some serious weight over the years, but then again, who really cares which car is faster. Just 200HP was not enough at the time. My 3.4L Boxster with huge 10.5" 19s is a blast at AutoX's. I dont track cars, puts me to sleep, but thats another story.

As for 25 being young, well too young to declare you will be keeping a car for life. Now if you said that about the Scud.....

Drive and enjoy your Scud and Caymen+

 

Congrats on your purchase! That scud looks beautiful in many ways! Enjoy her in good health. Looking for more pics once you have her (delivery shots are always welcomed !