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Details of my 30K service

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  1. Husker

    Husker F1 World Champ

    Dec 31, 2003
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    Well, the much bally-whoed 30K service on my car is in the books. Total bill for this was $6128.00

    First some background: I bought this 1990 TS in May. It had never had the 30K service done, so for those of you out there wondering how long a 348 can go between the 30K services, this one was 16 years and counting.

    Here are the parts that were replaced when the engine was out:

    1 RHS VC Gasket
    1 LHS VC Gasket
    2 end plate gaskets
    2 misc. gaskets
    1 oil seal
    4 misc seals (part 149917)
    4 cam O rings (117125)
    1 Timing belt
    2 Tensioner bearings
    8 spark plugs
    1 air filter
    2 fuel filters
    1 oil filter
    1 alternator belt
    1 AC belt
    4 cam O rings (114808)
    1 hose (140625)
    1 bearing
    2 tensioners
    1 gasket (150077
    1 sealing ring
    2 gallons prestone
    1 radiator cap
    2.5 lbs freon
    misc. hardware, stainless clamps
    14 quarts mobil one
    5 Fiat-10 aeroquip hoses
    1 Brake fluid
    4.5 Redline MT-90
    1 battery
    1 oil pressure sender
    1 window switch
    1 oil pump update kit
    Containing pads for timing belt to reduce belt vibrations
    Motor cover insulation
    1 oil pressure switch


    Labor included the following:

    - Replace spark plugs
    - Replace T-belt, tensioner bearings
    - Replace cam seals and O rings
    - replace valve cover gaskets
    - Replace dit. seals and gaskets
    - Replace dist. cap gaskets
    - Repalce air filter
    - Replace fuel fliters
    - Adjust valves
    - Remove cams, check bearings, reinstall
    - Torque cam journals
    - Check head torque
    - Set timing
    - Bleed brake lines
    - Do cam seal drain back modification
    - Change oil and filters
    - Change transaxle fluid
    - Replace coolant
    - Replace A/C o rings, evacuate
    - Inspect all lines
    - Clean and detail engine compartment
    - Check for leaks
    - inspect CV boots
    - Inspect fuse panel
    - Replace water pump
    - Inspect all seals
    - Inspect main timing gear assembly
    - Inspect ign. wires/cap/rotors
    - Inspect all bulbs, ligths, electrical motors
    - Inspect clutch play, flush and bleed
    - Inspect brake pads, rotors
    - Inspect all suspension, bushings, balljoints, tie rod ends, etc.
    - Install oil pump kit

    - Engine timing system modification: 1) modification to engine block, cover and bearing on the cover, which will now use ball bearing part # 144713 in palce of the current roller bearing. 2) Chain tightening pads (updated).
    3) Addition of containing pads for timing chain to reduce chain vibrations.


    that's it. Did I miss anything?
     
  2. johntvette

    johntvette Formula Junior

    Mar 27, 2006
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    Who did the job?

    Thanks for the write up.
     
  3. Husker

    Husker F1 World Champ

    Dec 31, 2003
    11,792
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    Robert Rodgers did the job. Robert is, in my opinion, the absolute best Ferrari mechanic in the United States. He works by himself under the name of Shade Tree Enginetrics, located in Nevada, TX. Nevada is northeast of Dallas about 30 miles.

    Robert is an expert in several italian cars, including Ferrari, Fiat, Alpha and Maserati.

    If you want a rush job, don't use Robert; he is a stickler for details and won't return your car until it is completed to HIS standards and satisfaction. And trust me, his standards are EXACTING. If there are improvements to be made while the engine is out, Robert will do these without you even knowing it, and often for no charge.

    While my car was in there, he took care of a few "details" for little or no extra charge, such as:

    - Refinish my 355 rims to brand new condition
    - Polished a nick in the top of the passenger window
    - Treated my leather seats and re-dyed a small portion
    - Installed my new steering wheel and shifter knob

    The engine looks showroom new - Robert cleaned and detailed every piece of the motor.

    If you want the best 30K service money can buy, and are willing to wait a little longer than the norm, give Robert a call - you won't be disappointed.
     
  4. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Nov 19, 2001
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    Uh oh.

    Um, the engine holds 11.9 quarts of oil. You may want to drain 2 of those quarts.
     
  5. davehelms

    davehelms F1 Rookie

    Jan 3, 2004
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    14 qts when the coolers and all lines are flushed and dry.
     
  6. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Dec 10, 2005
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    Mate!! What a excellent reccomendation! :) Nothing better than a guy who takes such pride in his workmanship. Very good to hear you are happy with his job. :)
     
  7. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Dec 10, 2005
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    Whats a few quarts of oil between man and machine.....:eek:
     
  8. chrisx666

    chrisx666 Formula Junior

    Dec 6, 2004
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    IMO looks like pretty good value for money considering the work undertaken and parts used.
     
  9. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    And there you have it. Thanks for the correction.
     
  10. 285ferrari

    285ferrari Two Time F1 World Champ
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    All that for 6k??!!! That is awesome!!! Sounds like one helluva mechcanic!!! Good for you!!!!
     
  11. JSL

    JSL Formula 3

    Jan 5, 2002
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    Hey Colin:
    Glad to hear the 348 is like new. Sounds like you have the right guy! If I didn't know better, I would think Eugenio moved to Texas! :) Blessings friend,
    Scott
     
  12. BT

    BT F1 World Champ
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    I think it is a good value for all the work. I think the dollar value spent is well worth it for the peace of mind. Thanks for the write up.
    :)
    BT
     
  13. rivee

    rivee F1 Rookie

    Jan 20, 2002
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    "cam seal drain back modification"

    wOW! He must have the TSB's for the 348.

    Nice writeup Colin.
     
  14. Miltonian

    Miltonian F1 Veteran

    Dec 11, 2002
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    "Inspect ign wires/cap/rotors".
    "Replace dist. cap gaskets".

    OK, I'm being picky, but the 348 doesn't have cap & rotors, or distributors.

    And there is no water pump listed in the parts replaced, but there is labor listed for it.
     
  15. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
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    More importantly, it means he has the hard to find jig for drilling the holes. Very cool!
     
  16. jeffb99tx

    jeffb99tx Formula Junior

    Sep 15, 2004
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    That is a great posting and wonderful news. Now Robert can get to my 24v Alfa 164. He is the only one I trust with this engine and your comments about him are spot on. Robert is the best. I saw your car at his place when I dropped mine off a few weeks ago. Even with the engine out, the 348 is a work of art. Please bring the car to ItalianCarFest in September if you can, it would look great there with all the other Ferrari's.

    Also, how fast did you get the car up to on the way home or do you have some type of break in period?

    Congratulations again on getting the car back.

    Jeff
    Dallas, Texas

    1994 Alfa Romeo 164 LS
     
  17. Husker

    Husker F1 World Champ

    Dec 31, 2003
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    Jeff, I think I saw your Alpha while I was there. Is it white/off white color? I believe it was sitting outside, and was on the way into the shop upon my departure.

    Robert is simply the best. As for the ItalianCarFest, I wish I could bring mine, but traveling 350 miles in the 348 beast is a .... errr... bear. My butt was sore for 3 days from the trip home.

    I will post photos soon.
     
  18. jeffb99tx

    jeffb99tx Formula Junior

    Sep 15, 2004
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    hahahaha. Too funny.

    My car is not the white one. It is actually a dark metallic blue and was probably sitting outside, under a car cover. After I purchased the car, I had it towed to Robert's and he took about six months to resurrect it so that it was drivable. It spent a lot of time sitting around waiting for parts and for racing season to be over. Because of that, I purchased a Noah car cover to protect it while it was waiting. The cover fits very well and helps protect the paint and interior from fading from the sun. He usually parks the car somewhere in his bone-yard or along the side. It should be ready by the end of this week and I will drive up on Saturday to pick it up.

    Hopefully your trip back was uneventful and I look forward to the photographs.

    Take care,

    Jeff
     
  19. ProCoach

    ProCoach F1 Veteran
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    Sep 15, 2004
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    Robert's terrific. Has been for a long time. Nice to see him getting his due. Husker, glad to see that our advice to "let him be" paid off. Looks like a deal for the money. Congrats!

    -Peter (another Fiat-loving dude... Ask Robert how much he likes Fiats and, oh yeah, we have a Siata 300BC here, too... <grin>))
     
  20. Miltonian

    Miltonian F1 Veteran

    Dec 11, 2002
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    So, did he replace the water pump, or not? I'm not trying to be difficult.....
     
  21. Joe G.

    Joe G. Formula 3
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    Dec 9, 2003
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    dear huskerntexas


    you wrote :
    - Replace dit. seals and gaskets
    - Replace dist. cap gaskets


    dude,
    348's don't have distributors

    also,
    16 years on that water pump ?

    hope you don't have to pull it again in a year
     
  22. Husker

    Husker F1 World Champ

    Dec 31, 2003
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    YES...water pump was replaced.
     
  23. Husker

    Husker F1 World Champ

    Dec 31, 2003
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    Dude...cut me a little slack...I probably misread the labor detail.

    Dude...I replaced the water pump.

    Dude...why you call'n me dude?
     
  24. Joe G.

    Joe G. Formula 3
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    sorry

    just making sure everything was done thoroughly

    we're cool
     
  25. allen_993

    allen_993 Karting

    Jul 3, 2006
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    Uhhhhhhh.......photos aren't necessary...
     

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