Did man really land on the moon?

OK - but are you sure that we are NOT just as naive right now? If you are right, it IS still working today, except for a few of the Illuminati or such...

BTW, I see that you are from Clearwater, Florida.

Are you on the city council?

 

In that case, we should be seeing the end of the Fiero conversions very soon. Unless the kids that spot one actually LIKE it...For that matter then, why couldn't they see right through Britney or Miley? Same deal - bad taste rather than actual naievety?

Bad in the sense that it is their loss. You could probably have laid bare many mysterious issues there for the good of all...for example, Hulk Hogan would not have had a chance to drag race down main street with you around - not to mention other mysteries would soon be made clear. Why don't you consider a run for it?

 

This is just stupid. It's not even worthy of comment. Instead of wasting time tossing around "moon landing deny-er" hogswallop, why don't you spend some time searching real science papers? Are your local libraries and universities somehow all boarded up and closed? Does "Google" not work on your computer?

Why don't you start your Google search with this tagline:

"lunar laser ranging retroreflector array."

Apollo 11 astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong put it there on July 21, 1969, about an hour before the end of their final moonwalk.
The array is still functioning today and can be accessed by any university physics department. If Apollo 11 didn't put it there, how did it get there? Why has it been used since 1969 if it wasn't placed there by Apollo 11?

Why is it that people that don't "believe" in easily sustainable facts, are ALWAYS incapable of doing even the most basic search for evidence? Is this some kind of pathological mental disorder? Is there some kind of award for being credulous and uneducated?

 

Ah - you have seen through my little ruse so quickly. Of course they do not really exist - they are anatomically correct CGI creations designed by the government to amuse this astute new genX crowd. Soon the truth will come out.

I will see your "Area 51" and raise you by starting one on the "Invisibility Ray" that could make WW2 battleships dissapear, but with the unfortunate side effect of materializing some of the crew half in and half out of bulkheads, etc...

But,what do you mean everyone dislikes this thread? It is certainly going FAR stronger than my ZR-1 versus ZR1 value thread, with implications for Ferrari value in the future now that subprime is failing...so boring - compared to this important stuff!

 

Sorry, there are no more recent images of LEM, footprints, flags, etc.

There is other evidence though

http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/missions/apollo15_touchdown_photos_010427.html

 

I dont believe it myself, too many anomolies. Also, seeing as 40 years have passed and no attempt has been made to return is extremely surprising.

In todays world, the cost would be a zillion times what it cost back then and it probably would not be a success, thats if man did in fact land on the moon before but i'M NOT BUYING IT.

Just my opinion.

 

Alright, now I will make myself look like a loon...

I have wondered the same thing as the OP in the past. I really wonder if they did land on the moon...

1) The technology back then was really primitive... If they landed on the moon 40 years ago, then going there now should be a cake-walk. Building a space station shouldn't have taken 20+ years. Shuttles shouldn't be blowing up because foam is coming off them.

2) Landing in the ocean on the way back, much less hitting planet earth, takes enormous computing power. Not to mention, fuel, oxygen, etc. You are talking millions of adjustments, and a helluva lot of luck. Now, go take a 1980's Timex Sinclair computer, and make those calculations...yeah, right. Oh, and grab some compressed/liquid oxygen, and see how much you might need to live 5 days. Now, mulitply by the amount of people on the capsule...

3) How the hell did they get back from the moon? Do you know how much equipment weighed back then? We are not talking carbon fiber and microchips. Scientists TODAY cant routinely send stuff to the moon. "Takes too much fuel." Hell, we can't get a satellite to another planet without losing the signal, or having it get lost. But getting several men to the moon...having them walk there WITH a mobile vehicle....then getting them back....40 years ago...thats not a problem...

Either the government back then was unbelievably brilliant, and we have merely gotten stupider with the passage of time...or...it MIGHT not have happened.

Go ahead, slam me. But I really have a hard time believing that they had the technology to do it...when they can't do it 40 years later...

 

I think we probably did land on the moon.

However i wouldnt be surprised if we someday found out we didn't and it was a set up.

 

No we didn't! The whole thing was flimed at Top Carbons house! Dammit I was their when it happend!

 

+1

You beat me to it!

 

They COULD easily do it again, but they don't WANT to as it costs TONS of money (which was readily available for such projects during the cold war, but isn't today) and there's no point at all in doing it. Maybe in 50 years when you can build a real permanent station up there, but not now. Why should they waste bizarre amounts of money starting a new moon program for just letting a couple of guys walk around? You had to design completely new spaceships, which isn't an issue from the technological point of view, but it still has to be done, and it is freaking expensive. It's like if you wanted to transport all the sand out of the Sahara. The machinery needed could surely be developed with todays knowledge and huge $$$, but in the end after moving all the sand away you'd have bare rocks which wouldn't have any use either.

 

Why would he be living with Salman Rushdie?

 

I think you might be on to something.

Blame it on the "New Math" that we were being taught since then.

 

Only a lunatic would think we didn't put men on the moon.

 

You havent been reading the news much have you ? There is a new Space Race w China & the USA trying to get to the Moon 1st.

NASA has scrapped the space shuttle and has a new 1969 style capsule combined w Shuttle rockets to do it

and by the way Radio Telescopes have been around sine the 1950s or so

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/constellation/orion/index.html

ConstellationNASA's New Spacecraft: Ares and Orion
OverviewAmerica will send a new generation of explorers to the moon aboard NASA’s Orion crew exploration vehicle. Making its first flights early in the next decade, Orion is part of the Constellation Program to send human explorers back to the moon, and then onward to Mars and other destinations in the solar system.




http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/19/china_lunar_plans/

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I have seen that video before on Youtube, but the one I saw was longer and was more "raw" and showed more of the original video. It does raise many questions. On the video that I saw, it was very clear what was being done. Instead of looking at the earth from 130,000 miles away with the camera up against the window, the astronauts held the camera far away from the window while looking at the earth that was only a few hundred miles away. They turned off the lights in the spacecraft and shielded part of the window with a screen of some sort to make it appear that the earth was much smaller than it actually was. There is no doubt that the video was real. And so here is a question for the people who believe that there was NO conspiracy:

If the above mentioned video does NOT show an attempt to deceive the public, then EXACTLY WHAT WAS THIS VIDEO USED FOR? What was it's purpose?

It's kind of like finding somebody standing in the dark with a crowbar and pillowcase in their hands while wearing a black mask. If they are NOT a burglar, then exactly WHAT are they doing???

 

but theres nothing surprising about stupid politicians in action, Thats the # 1 reason Apollo was killed and we never returned since the 70s