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Did the dealer added HGTE package replace the standard shocks or just recalibrate?

Discussion in '612/599' started by LightGuy, Feb 6, 2019.

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  1. LightGuy

    LightGuy Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Seen in an ebay ad "The package cost was approximately $37,000 and includes stiffer front and rear springs with adjustable shocks, a thicker anti-roll bar, new wheels, and tires with slightly wider front wheels."

    So did the dealers actually replace the shocks or were they just reprogrammed ?
     
  2. Skidkid

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    I have seen the invoice from adding full HGTE and it was $42K. Not all installs got everything so it is hard to tell exactly what was done in any given instance if you don't have the invoice.
     
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    HGTE and normal 599s use the same shocks.
     
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  4. Doctor Mark

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    I believe that the shocks are recalibrated and not replaced.
     
  5. tazandjan

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    Neither, just the Shock/Body ECU schedules shock stiffness differently. Same part number for both shocks.
     
  6. 360Marnix

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    Are the springs different or the same aswell?


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  7. tazandjan

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    Different springs and rear anti-roll bar. Excerpted from Ferrari tech data:

    These results are achieved through both mechanical and software changes:
    • Lower suspension (10mm)
    • New magnetorheologically controlled suspension calibration for the Manettino
    SPORT and RACE configurations
    • More rigid suspension springs (front + 16%, rear + 10%)
    • More rigid rear antiroll bars (diameter increased to 24.5 mm)
    • Tires with improved compound
    • Modular rims with reduced weight and special new design
     
  8. LightGuy

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    #8 LightGuy, Feb 8, 2019
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    From the Kiwifaza track car topic;

    " GTO sway bars n springs, by far the best bang for buck on the project, approx $850 usd for 2 sway bars and all 4 springs , straight from euro spares, uk, Great to deal with,prompt and efficient"

    Seems it would be fairly inexpensive to duplicate a HGTE if a stock GTB donor car had the ceramic brakes and if a reprogrammed ECU could adjust the shocks and shifting. Front wheel width is only a tad wider.

    Are there reprograms like this out there ?
     
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  9. LightGuy

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    Did the Ferrari dealers modify the Manitino markings on 07, 08 and 09 HGTE modified cars ?
    Any other small mods performed ?
     
  10. tazandjan

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    The markings were not changed on the Manettino for factory HGTEs. I think I have posted this a dozen times, but here it is again. Courtesy of Boardwalk.

    599 HGTE Retrofit kit

    For your 599, we offer the HGTE Retrofit kit which includes...

    Handling package - consisting of new more rigid springs and rear anti-roll bar as well as new calibration for the magnetorheological shock absorbers when in the sporty positions of the Manettino (SPORT and RACE positions). The handling features a better response time and a feeling of increased compactness without unduly compromising driving comfort. The car’s ride height has also been reduced and therefore the center of gravity lowered still further, which helps with the reduction of weight shift. The lowering of the center of mass combined with the new setup helps to reduce the squat and dive as well as pitch and roll, with the resulting benefit to the car’s dynamic performance.

    This setting reduces the static roll and rolling movements on the tracks as well as pitching. This gives the car faster turn-in and less under-steer effect. The car’s performance has also been improved with new tires which have been specially optimized for this package. They are characterized by a compound that helps to allow even more effective grip for better road holding combined with excellent ease of control.


    The front tires are fitted on modular rims with increased rigidity and a larger track. This improves axle performance which facilitates turn-in.

    These results are achieved through both mechanical and software changes:
    • Lower suspension (10mm)
    • New magnetorheologically controlled suspension calibration for the Manettino
    SPORT and RACE configurations
    • More rigid suspension springs (front + 16%, rear + 10%)
    • More rigid rear antiroll bars (diameter increased to 24.5 mm)
    • Tires with improved compound
    • Modular rims with reduced weight and special new design

    The kit also adds a strong styling component: the 20” modular rims with new design and finishing treatment. The rims have a forged flange to benefit weight. The design of the spokes is highlighted by a diamond surface treatment with a technical matte transparent trim called “Silver Corsa”.


    Performance package - NOTE-This kit cannot be installed on cars with manual gearboxes. Cars with VIN 156938 and greater can use this kit or HGTE Exhaust Kit part number 70001493 which is mufflers only.

    The installation of the “HGTE Performance” kit, which includes the replacement of the mufflers, exhaust pipes and new software settings, offers the client faster response of the engine controls. This enhances the car’s dynamic qualities which can be best experienced on the track.

    In performance driving conditions, the F1 gearbox activation is now more rapid. Indeed, thanks to optimized electronic control, the response time of the gear change command system has been reduced by 20 milliseconds during downshifting. A further enhancement involves engine control, which includes
    accelerator logic with modified mapping that enhances the rapid increase in revolutions along the wide engine use field.

    In addition, this kit includes exhaust tailpipes which are further enhanced in the rear ¾ views by the black chroming treatment on the side surface. The styling characteristics of the tailpipes are combined with a modification of the exhaust muffler. The sound produced by the car is more pronounced and exciting, especially for sports use, while maintaining a good level of comfort at cruising speed.

    Exhaust - Mufflers only upgrade

    Asthetic (exterior only) -
    Together with the other kits, or individually, this kit completes the “customization” of the exterior. It enhances the front area with the use of a grille with a special chromatic treatment where the Prancing Horse has a more definitive appearance due to a special brushed-finish treatment. The Prancing Horse with the same treatment is also available on the rear lid.



    Please give us a call regarding the HGTE kits. They can be done individually or as a whole.
     
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