Did Webber get penalized for this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elyxIhMW_No

Massa passing Webber at Fuji. IMO I dont see any different than Barrichello's pass on Schumacher at Hungary, but yet everyone is making a big deal about it.

 

Good find! It's almost identical.....

And, IIRC, your implication is correct - In this case, "no harm, no foul"...... He made a single move, that shove Phil to the wall. "That's racin'....."

Cheers,
Ian

 

Yes I remember it, I even screen shot it, at the time because I was questioning whether Massa was legal running over those lines.

Webber is renowed for this sort of move.

 

Oh my favourite in that clip is Mika H ...

 

Agreed, samething MS did to Rubens.

 

We're talking to deaf men ears' chaps.

I brought it up last month as well, no video though. There was even a chap who got very angry because I said Webber was involved yet he was adamant that he wasn't!

 

he did get penalized for this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B_IB5tCpFI&feature=related

 

And that bastard is the president of the drivers association...

Irony I guess.

 

That probably why he does it because he thinks he can get away with it. Webber is dangerous and it showed when he passed Heikki at Spain.

 

That Piquet-Senna power slide is SICK!!

 

****wit comment as usual

 

and when you showed me the clip I apologised, don't carry on , you're behaving like all the other geese here

 

Moretti, you need **** off.

 

you first , ladies before gentlemen

 

No difference? At the end of the barrier Webber is like 2 feet away from the white line.

Details matter.

 

He's not. And the end of the pitwall was *close*.

Indeed.

You want to differentiate/argue/debate over a few inches at 150+ mph?

I could argue that Mark just isn't as good as Michael - If he was he would have squeezed even harder..... Bottom line, no harm, no foul, they were *racing*, and in F1 a single move is allowed (at least for now..... Seems like you push someone, you get in trouble these days....)

"Don't like the heat?......" comes to mind.

Cheers,
Ian

 

Nope.

You have a different definition of "a few" than I do.

And I could argue that in 2010 Webber is every bit as good as Michael, probably better. Webber has already *crushed* Rosberg.

Pardon the crappy screen shot, but this is just for illustration purposes. Barrichello was much closer to the wall.
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I think you may want to look at it again, Massa was just as close to the wall as Barrichello. Both Webber and Schumacher moved over once. I don't see the difference.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiJkTWLpMys&p=0A74B5F6B618D9EB&playnext=1&index=43

Here is the onboard shot of Barrichello pass

 

Definitely!

 

Not that I want to get involved with this endless argument, but Schumacher made 1 steady move to box Barrichello, Webber is swerving the whole time towards Massa

 

Nope not even remotely the same.

Webber was already moving right towards the wall, before he even attempted the pass you can see there is no room as Massa needs to cross the line to overtake. Rubens has over a car width gap.
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I literally have no idea how you could think that Webber is somehow endangering Massa to the same level as Schumi endangered Barrichello. Do you have good vision?
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The real difference is MS is simply wasting his time and pushed Barrichello against the wall because he's pissed off he is now useless.

Webber on the other hand was actually racing ...

While MS was once brilliant, every dog has his day and his days are over as a top flight racing driver. Please take your obvious frustrations out on something and somebody else ...

Pete

 

I think he only has ONE eye so don't go too hard on him