Different placement of tailights on Euro QV ?

If it makes you feel any better, my lights are reversed as well and my car is original. I've seen several pics in some of my Ferrari books that also show some cars like this.

 

My car is a Euro and my tail lights are in the proper position.

 

I would share the same concerns. Could be accident damage, or maybe they were removed when the car was federalized and were put back incorrectly. They are definitely not supposed to be that way.

 

All depends on how hungover Luigi was when he put them in...

 

The car has had the taillights out due to accident repairs or re-spray. Be wary!!!

The lights were never reversed at the factory! It was always orange indicator/reverse lights on outside,brake and park lights on the inside on all 308 GTB/GTS,328 and 288 GTO and F40 models,irregardless of which market the car was destined for!

I own an Aussie spec 308 gts QV(1984)..........you American's would call it a " Euro"with the steering wheel on the wrong side..L.O.L!

Hope this helps,

PETE

 

See my earlier post........Spanish market cars were NO different!

Taillights have been reversed due to accident repairs or Re-spray.........CAN I MAKE IT ANY CLEARER THEN THIS???


P

 

Oh yeah.......

That's why we here look at the price of 308 QV's in your market and drool........trouble is nothing under 30 years of age that's LHD can be registered here in Oz!


A 308 qv in Oz starts at around 60,000-70,000 Oz dollars and top cars command around 90,000 dollars!

There's a lovely green 308 GTSQV at Forza motorsports that I would by in a heartbeat for 33,000 USD but can't get it registered here for years yet!

Pete

 

Not giving you any crap Kim.........the other members car is NOT right...no matter what he says about it being original!

I have all Factory literature and brochures for 308 QV for Euro markets,Australian markets,UK markets and USA markets. Taillight position is the same in all!


I'd bet my nuts on it,that's how sure I am.


P

 

If the car is nice enough to worry about that buy it now! It must be fantastic.

 

Owners manual -
Above Euro QV
Below US QV
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Paul

I stand by what I said earlier..........I have a UK market owners manual dated 248/82 n. 2500 Shows the brake/park light as the outers,indicators/reverse lights as inners!(Same as the one you pictured......



My Australian spec owners manual dated 248/82 is the same. It's a mistake in the manuals.......you will notice that there is no "E" the writing despite there being an "E" in the manual!

I have the Euro QV brochures dated 258/83 and 245/82 which were printed in Italy.....Ferrari used the same brochures for all Euro/ROW (Non USA)markets.......just different print run dates...and in all of them the Indicators/Reverse lights are clearly shown on the outside with Stop/Tail lights on the insides!

My own Oz spec car has never had the rear lights off and they are positioned as I describe,despite my original owners manual saying otherwise............

So yes I'm still willing to bet my nuts on it...L.O.L!

Pete

 

Very good chance they were simply removed for cleaning - see this very current thread:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=321452

 

Put your sword down Peter, we agree (and your nuts aren't in jeopardy). I don't claim to be an expert and am just presenting Ferrari's publication (OM) data. My top picture above IS from OM 248-82 which you also claim as authority (except you deny presence of an E which is clearly there (luce d directione)(clignotant)(direction indicator light)

While we've all seen cars with strange light position and we understand how it came to be, Ferraris, early on to recent times also show red stop/parking inside and yellow directional outside as the does US or NA OMs. Certainly, Ferrari has produced more specials than Ford and certainly may have produced a car or three with stop/parking lights on the outside but it's certainly not 'a Euro thing'. Mitch D is the only owner-contrarian, not me.

OTOH I can't understand making a purchase decision based on a light location. When one fears an pre-crunched car, one makes a trip underneath the chassis for indications of bent metal.

Below the Datona and F40 rear lights...Ferrari rear lights are a constant badge.
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Hi Paul

If you look closely at the english writing to the right of the Euro 308 QV diagram......it lists what A,B,C,D, are and whilst E is obviously indicators it doesn't show the letter E before the description as it does with theothers..........Someone at Ferrari didn't proof read the owners manuals before being sent to print........L.O.L!

I get annoyed when someone says they're car is " original " but it isn't, like the other Fchatter who claims his lights (incorrectly placed) are original!

This just adds to the confusion of new/prospective owners and wastes everyones time!

Your right it is relatively easy to pick bodywork repairs on these cars,you just have to look undeneath them!

But going back to the OP post.......car he is looking at has either had a re-spray,bodywork repairs or lights been off for cleaning......and they are a pain in the *ss to remove for that!

Certainly worth closer investigation before deciding whether or not to purchase!

Cheers,

Pete

 

The easiest way to check if this is true is to simply step on the brakes. If the inner light up, you are right.

If the outer light up, the factory did it. No one is going to accidentally re-route the wires when they clean the lenses.

 

Yup - fair point

 

I looked at a Euro 308 in New Jersey a little over a year ago that had revesed lenses. Wonder if its the same car?

 

The one I saw was a private owner.. Red w/black interior. He got the car by bartering some electrical work a few years ago, and really didn't use it at all. Didn't even have plates for it.. he would just transfer plates from his Porsche to take it out for a spin once in a while. It was fairly decent cosmetically, but there was no mechanical history and the header, or something, was rattling. I went back a second time with a friend to look at it after he supposedly fixed the header, but he wouldn't let the car run for long... I was just checking to see what electrical components were working, and he kept shutting it down. So that scared me.