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Differential failure at what mileage?

Discussion in 'Boxers/TR/M' started by Bradwilliams, Apr 17, 2018.

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When did your diff fail?

  1. 0-10k miles

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  2. 15k

    1 vote(s)
    4.3%
  3. 20k

    2 vote(s)
    8.7%
  4. 25k

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  5. 30k

    1 vote(s)
    4.3%
  6. 35k

    3 vote(s)
    13.0%
  7. 40k

    2 vote(s)
    8.7%
  8. 45k

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    8.7%
  9. 50k

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  10. You're a lucky SOB like Shamile who is over 60 and still rosey

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  1. Bradwilliams

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    Hey guys,

    Just thought I'd try to get some more info out there understanding the likelihood of differential failure. To all of the fellows that have had to go through it what was your mileage? Mine went at 42k.
     
  2. ferralc

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    Any kind of warning? How many miles did you use the car before it happened?
    I think the main risk of a differential problem is cars that been abused by former owners. So I am wondering if it happened at the beginning of an ownership or after years of using the car.


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  3. Bradwilliams

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    The only warning I got was heavy vibration in the lower revs, then the quintessential gearbox oil shooting out of the back.
     
  4. ferralc

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    Enough warning to stop the car and avoid further damage or the damage was already done?


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  5. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    All depends how u drive it or how it was driven before;)


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  6. ferralc

    ferralc Formula 3
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    Yes but OPs went at 42k miles that mileage would make you think you have “made it”
    If a car has been abused by former owners I would think the differential would go at a lower mileage.


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  7. rpissm

    rpissm Formula 3

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    I thought there was a big 'ol thread on this that seemed to say that a mileage correlation wasn't possible because of the manual-nature of the weld, as well as the manual nature of how the weld was filed down / cleaned up after it was originally put together?
     
  8. Prova85

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    There was. And IIRC someone put together a graphical presentation of the data collected. We've down this road before....
     
  9. ozziindaus

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  10. turbo-joe

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    mine was broken at a little more than 22000 km, but had much more broken inside. some teeth have escaped from the CP, but can not say what was first broken: the diff or the CP set
     
  11. lear60man

    lear60man Formula 3

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    I have a bran new Newman Dif in the trunk of my TR hahahah. Life financial grenades kept it form being installed with a major. (Home AC Heat, Vet bills etc). Priorities I guess.
     
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  12. Bradwilliams

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    Sorry for the redundancy boys. Lear60, of course you do! I should have done the same. Luckily newman was able to get one out to me pretty quickly, a very big help!
     
  13. JohnnyGQ

    JohnnyGQ Karting

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    Has anyone found a source for the diff internals? Newman's is just the housing, if I read right
     
  14. turbo-joe

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  15. ago car nut

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    There is nothing wrong with original internals. The problem is the welded diff. case. Modena engineering makes a complete diff. with new internals. But many believe all new internals is not necessary.
     
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  16. turbo-joe

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    until now I changed 3 diffs with those from MODENA ENGINEERING, australia, and never had problems with those. they are complete to put in :) :)
     
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  17. TODDZTR

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  18. Melvok

    Melvok F1 World Champ
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    Hi friends,

    Happened to stumble over this new thread of friend Brad ....

    Why not do a poper search here and find all info that already is available here ?

    Must now- 3 years after stopped renewing that info- have many more breakdowns of diff for sure.

    It's NOT a matter of IF but a matter of WHEN it will happen to your diffs imo .... (hope not :) )

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  19. stardoc

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    We need a "my diff. is still original" option to get a better gauge of how unlikely a failed differential is. My Ferrari mechanic how services the majority of TRs and 308s has yet to see a diff. failure.
     
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  20. TODDZTR

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    That's a very good point.

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  21. turbo-joe

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    good idea - then you may create this thread please
    I can not do this because my original diff has been broken already
     
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  22. Melvok

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    I hope you let him read all we wrote in that thread ... it is NOT unrealistic, you may/will notice this yourself once, very sudden ...
     
  23. stardoc

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    Non withstanding a very awful experience of a differential failure some of you may have had, I believe that the internet has a way of amplifying an issue which is not as prevalent as it may seem.
     
  24. Melvok

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    Obviously you are a dis-believer ... and did not take the time to read my thread.

    Fine with me ...
     
  25. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    I agree on both accounts. Diff failure are not a legend.
    Speaking with my mechanic about this, they are not many huge signs telling u it is going to die.
    However, and i will trust roberto Roselli my mechanic on that, it seems also that the diff failure can be caused by poor driving habits and generally poor maintenance. As he once told me; u would be surprised how people abuse their cars.
    I personally was always gentle with my car, waiting for warm up, never dropped the clutch and i was pleasantly surprised with its reliability:


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