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Dino *03550* On BAT Auction

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  1. 4CamGT

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  2. Bluebottle

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    Amazing!!!:D:D:D
     
  3. 375+

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    I've seen this car and discussed it with both the current owner(since 1981) and the previous owner who acquired it as a used car from a private seller in Ohio(date uncertain).
     
  4. 4CamGT

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    And.......?
     
  5. 375+

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    It hasn't been regularly driven in years, and hasn't been properly serviced in decades IMO.
     
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    #6 swift53, Nov 22, 2018
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    Freeman,
    Pretty Hairy....o_O
    Lord knows what inhabits in that fur...
    Regards, Alberto
     
  7. 4CamGT

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    Hopefully the reserve is reasonable. Needs a sympathetic, enthusiastic new owner. Once it’s been exorcised from all the “extras”, gets serviced and gets a good detail, it looks promising. I think the extra fur on the center console is a nice cozy touch!

    Freeman
     
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  8. gbutler

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    This was the first Dino I ever drove! When I drove it about three years ago, it took a while to fire it up, but we at least got it running and were able to take it "around the block" (maybe a couple of miles or so). No comments are needed on the interior - the pictures speak for themselves! There were several oil leaks, rust on bottom of the doors, and it was very obvious car had sat for many years and had been neglected. In my opinion the car needs a total restoration. I wonder if the dealer / party representing the car has purchased it (I highly doubt it, but you never know). If not, I can only imagine what "pie in the sky" numbers were given to the current owner in order to secure the right to market this car.
     
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  9. pshoejberg

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    In my opinion this is a good canditate for a (costly) total restoration.
    Best Peter
     
  10. George Vosburgh

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    This one looks like another Gullwing candidate.
     
  11. 4CamGT

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    I don’t disagree but it could mean affordable, entry level Dino ownership for those that have been dreaming of one for years. This one looks pretty complete with its books and tools (worth $16K+?). Taking into consideration of some recommissioning and not finding any serious rust or anything else not too serious, I would say around $230K retail would still be well bought?

    Freeman
     
  12. cls

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    We will see. Likely the car needs frame off to be right, and once it's blasted who knows what's underneath the paint. As far as the books and tools, I don't think the blue manual is correct, and a lot of the tools look like they're missing from the roll.
    That said, low 200s sounds right, even though I'd plan on a complete cosmetic and mechanical restoration. I would be surprised if it doesn't need an engine rebuild, suspension if obvious, frame shows significant surface rust, so I'll bet there are some more problems to be found once the underbody panels are removed (unscrewed?) With a proper restoration a '72 246GT has already sold over $400k, so not a bad buy.
     
  13. Bluebottle

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    But preserving the seat covers, please!
     
  14. 4CamGT

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    I think the seat covers need a flea collar!
     
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  15. 375+

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    I believe that the owner has higher expectations.
     
  16. 4CamGT

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    A strong strategy would be to lift the reserve at around $190K to inspire healthy bidding and then let the market decide the final price. I’ve seen way too many get stale on the market with optimistic pricing. BAT is popular internationally and will have everyone’s attention.
     
  17. George Vosburgh

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    I'm not surprised. Why doesn't he just clean it up himself then go for the sale?
     
  18. pshoejberg

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    I don’t think there is a lot of people left that wants to enter Dino ownership at +200 K$ without aiming for drivability and perfection and we all know what effort that takes. I would say a wonderful project for the DIY'er that has the time, economy and the skills. Good economy? That depends on how high you value your free time...-:) and future Dino prices.. I doubt very much that a professional company can make a reasonable profit on that car here in the western Europe anyway. By the way love the seats.

    Best Peter
     
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  20. gbutler

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    Looking back at my pictures from 3 years ago, it appears as though there is rust at the bottom of one of the doors. Funny how BAT ad says no rust!
     
  21. 4CamGT

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    First off, I don’t believe what I read. As Ronald Reagan once said, “Trust but Verify!” The good thing about Dinos is that they’re mostly a single paneled body on top of a space frame and not a complex monocoque. Truly built in the old coach built style. New paint can cover a lot of sins. I prefer seeing old paint with any issues exposing themselves. With this Dino, it’ll be all about the price and if it’s priced accordingly.

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  22. cls

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    But how much old paint is on this one? It's definitely been resprayed, around the gas cap shows this without a doubt.
     
  23. geno berns

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    What do you consider as the right price for this car?
     
  24. George Vosburgh

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    I think this guy is expecting north of 200K. Even throwing another 100K at it might not get you all the way done.
     
  25. 4CamGT

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    I hope the reserve is low enough that it will allow the market to determine the right price. There really isn’t anything special about this Dino except it looks complete and has most of its books and tools. If bought correctly, it could give a good basis for a grassroots DIY enthusiast.
     
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